Synclavier v2 - Any way to filter for the New Patches?

[craftycurate]

Hi

Is there any way to check out just the new patches in Synclavier v2, or are they all mixed in? I can't find any bank or filter that says that a patch uses samples.

Thanks
Richard

[LBH]

No. That would have been good. Perhaps it's a fault we can't.

I think the presets from the designers Indie Moon, Simon Galifet and Raynald Dantigny are new. Not all are using the new sample and resynthesis option. You can sort for those designers. But not for sample/ resynthesis presets in this version, and it might be a fault.

Can't tell if there are more new presets.

[jackn2mpu]

Here we go. I have two boot partitions on my MacPro cheesegrater here. I have the VCollection 5 on both partitions; I only updated the partition that is OSX 10.12.6. I did that because my other partition which is OSX 10.10.5 is something I don't want to muck around with for reasons not pertinent here. I looked through both installs of Synclavier and here's what I found (the first number is what in Synclavier 2 and the second is in the original Synclavier install). For example 7/3 would be 7 patches in Synclavier 2 and the 3 would be 3 patches in the original Synclavier.
Here we go
overall number of patches 646/476
Bass patches 75/60
Brass patches 15/13
Keys patches 101/78
Lead patches 62/38
Organ patches 23/16
Pad patches 153/101
Percussion patches 23/23 (no change)
Seq patches 94/71
SFX patches 74/63
Strings patches18/11
Synth patches 1/1 (no change)
Templates 11/1
Note that this is just for the Factory library. One way I think to find out the patches that use samples/resynthesis is to call up each one (ugh!) and look in the SCR screen to see if a sample list shows in the sample window of the gui.
This does not excuse Arturia from fixing this mess. Like I said in another thread here the tutorial video Arturia has on their site and YouTube the presenter refers to a 'samples' category.

edit note: changed NI to Arturia; apologies for doing that

[jackn2mpu]

Well I went and did it - went through every freakin' patch to search for what patches used samples. Note that with the one exception of the Sample and Syntheses patch in Pads which has a sample in Partial 3 I didn't go below just looking at the first partial. I ain't that masochistic. Feel free to add to this list and share as needed. I did not yet create my own 'Samples' category. I'm waiting for Arturia to come back with an answer on this (if they ever do or care). Also interesting is that evewn though the Percussion category has the same number of patches as the first Synclavier there's a patch that uses samples.

Bass:
Aboriginal Drum & Bass (Big One)
Disrespectful Bass
Aboriginal Drum & Bass
Another Plucked Bass
Donna’s Bass
Mark’s Pulse Bass
PWM Analog Bass
The Blob Bass
Vector Bass

Brass:
Aeon Brass
Keys:
Child’s Play
Cyclical Oscillating
Electronic Forte Piano
Empyrean
In The Backyard (appears to be missing sample)
Keymix
Oh Key
Skyrealms
String of Life
The Unknown Man
Wave 2.4

Lead:
Black Tulips
Combo-X
Fairlight Sync
Gre House
Hangnail
Harpsi Lead
Horn Fly
Metal Frog

Organ:
Snowfall 2
Eventual Fate
Snowfall

Pads:
Aqua Man
Astral Choir
Breath Of Fresh Air
Clandestine
CMI Grand & JX Strings
Dark Side Of The Sun
Ethereal 1988
Grit Lead Pad
Landing On Ketuni-3
Modular Sync
Mystical Tines
One Complete Revolution
Pit Viper
Radiodrome
Random Grains
Random Grains 2
River of Stars
Sample & Synthesis (sample in partial 3)
Strummin’ Around
Synclavier Rompler Texture
The Ancestors
The Phantom Suns
The Sky Might Fall
The Sky Might Fall 2
Traces Of A Tear
Ultimate Fate 1
Ultimate Fate 2
Wavestationesqe
Weird Tales

Percussion:
Jeannie Longo

Sequence:
Acceleration Sustain
Dreaming Back To The Future
Pad Rotation
SFX:
Mitch’s Revenge
Wow That’s High

Strings:
Guitar Ensemble
The Opera
The Power Of Steel

Synth:
none

Templates:Multi Sample Playback
Single Sample Playback

[MarkBog]

Bravo!  Thanks!!

[Arnaud_Arturia]

Thanks and nice work Jackn2mpu !

I didn't check if you are right on the whole list, but here is the list sorted by sound designer :

*****************
Ed Ten Eyck:
*****************
Bright Shift
Brighter Lead
Canopus
Childs Play
Chimey FM
Crystal Ball
Deepen Bass
Digitar
Flutey Bell
Hangnail
Happy And Twisted
Horn Fly
Internal Organ
Keymix
Lightway
Liquid Pluck
Money
Ed's Nasty Bass
Pluckish
Rigel
Rosebud Strings
Roundroom
Solar Split
Speckle
Stirring The Pot
Strobed
Sunspots
Synrimba
Tar Pit
Through The Fog
Toypad
Wave FM

*****************
Indie Moon:
*****************
Arthur Is Dreaming
B-Block 2
Clock DMA
Combo-X
Grit Lead Pad
In The Backyard
Landing On Ketuni-3
Lyrical XT
Metalfrog
Metathing
Mitch's Revenge
Modular Sync
Naked Planet
Plic Et Ploc
Proto Analog
Radiodrome
Rock That Beat
Scanners Lead
Session 6
Skavenlead
Skyrealms
Slighty Gritty
The Ancestors
The Blob Bass
The Last Lab
The Phantom Suns
The Power Of Steel
Three Colors
Vocal Metal Seq
Wave 2.4
Weird Tales
Winter's Seal

*****************
Mark Gijsman:
*****************
Aqua Man
Arabian Nights
Black Tulips
Breath Of Fresh Air
Clandestine
CMI Grand & JX Strings
Electronic Forte Piano
Empyrean
Ethereal 1988
Fairlight Sync
Guitar Ensemble
Harpsi Lead
Metal P.P.G
Mystical Tines
Pit Viper
Plastic Bass
Mark's Pulse Bass
PWM Analog Bass
Sample & Synthesis
Siel Organ
Slumber Party
Strummin' Around
Synclavier Rompler Texture
System Addict
The Leader
The Opera
The Unknown Man
Traces Of A Tear
Unorthodox Behaviour
Upright Harpsichord
Vector Bass
Wavestationesqe

*****************
Raynald Dantigny:
*****************
Acceleration Sustain
Anti Chamber
Gre House
Invasion
Living Ra7
Oh Key
St Wooble
Train Announcement

*****************
Simon Gallifet:
*****************
Aboriginal Drum & Bass
Aboriginal Drum & Bass (Big One)
Another Plucked Bass
Astral Choir
Asymmetric Sequence
Celestial Object
Classic 80's Voices
Cyclical Oscillating
Dark Side Of The Sun
Disrespectful Bass
Donna's Base
Dreaming Back To The Future
Eventual Fate
FM French Corps
House Chord
Jeannie Longo
Love Barbieri
Musette
One Complete Revolution
Pad Rotation
Random Grains
Random Grains 2
River of Stars
Shimmer Meaning
Snowfall
Snowfall 2
String of Life
Sweet Harpegio For Gentle People
The Sky Might Fall
The Sky Might Fall 2
Transpose Me
Ultimate Fate 1
Ultimate Fate 2
Vaporware
Wow That's High

*****************
Victor Morello:
*****************
Additive Overkill
Aeon Brass
Arp Ensemble
Butter
Canon Even
Chrono Mellow
Into the Night
Modulation Operations (Hold it)
Mysterious Pad
Mysterious Sequence
Organ Body
Organ-0
Pinch Lead
Resyn Basic
Slap Dat FM Env
Soft Horn Ensemble
Split Snes
Squary Mellow
Step Elements (Hold it)
Sub Gliders
Superlative
Techno Stepseq
That Amb
That Bass (Hold it)
Woodbright

[jackn2mpu]

Arnaud:
So these are the new designers or what? I ask because a number of the patches that show under the designer's names don't use the sampling/resynthesis new features.

[Arnaud_Arturia]

Arnaud:
So these are the new designers or what? I ask because a number of the patches that show under the designer's names don't use the sampling/resynthesis new features.

Yes that's the whole list of new patchs in V2 and you're right, not all patchs use the sample and resynthesis function. Some sound designers are new but some already created ones in the first version of Synclavier.

I have reported the request to have a special category with presets using samples.

[jackn2mpu]

Bravo!  Thanks!!

Glad you like it. I think I missed a patch that should go into Pad and that's Canopus

[craftycurate]

Well I went and did it - went through every freakin' patch to search for what patches used samples. Note that with the one exception of the Sample and Syntheses patch in Pads which has a sample in Partial 3 I didn't go below just looking at the first partial. I ain't that masochistic. Feel free to add to this list and share as needed. I did not yet create my own 'Samples' category. I'm waiting for Arturia to come back with an answer on this (if they ever do or care). Also interesting is that evewn though the Percussion category has the same number of patches as the first Synclavier there's a patch that uses samples.

Excellent thanks!!