can not load projecct from the hardware

[stuey]

When you say 'We' what do you mean?

Stu

[Johann]

Hi everyone,

We decided to remove the Jog Wheel shortcut because the Library is now a panel, and it seemed more natural to have a shortcut similar to the ones used for other panels.

Best,

Seb.

No! Please 
It doesnt hurt to bring the feature back, does it?

[stuey]

im assuming this is a wind up. Seb?

You can't really be serious, seeing as the biggest knob on the Spark controller, (The hardware box Arturia spent $1000's on R & D) you are about to render useless.. Really?

 

[napishu]

Hi everyone,

We decided to remove the Jog Wheel shortcut because the Library is now a panel, and it seemed more natural to have a shortcut similar to the ones used for other panels.

Best,

Seb.

OMG  NO ...    What happens to the developers and marketers in arturia. Interesting ideas but no better implementation and users support (soft bugs, request improvements etc)

[Mr. Roboto]

I think there is a misunderstanding here. You can of course still use your jogwheel you just have to press SELECT + STEP7 buttons first (or just the "Proj." button on Spark LE). Afterwards you can still use your jogwheel to scroll through the list.

[stuey]

Clearly... I'm guessing the direct access to the Instrument and Kit are going to be in an update. As someone said below 'It's not implemented yet'.

You can of course still use your jogwheel you just have to press SELECT + STEP7 buttons first (or just the "Proj." button on Spark LE)

As far as pressing two buttons before being able to press the button that makes the change on the hardware, that's plain idiocy There's direct access to projects which then can be seen on the display, you then click to confirm the change, same with kits and Instruments. Functionality that is in 1.7.2 and prior versions.

Stu

[Mr. Roboto]

Ah O.K., got it.

[Johann]

Clearly... I'm guessing the direct access to the Instrument and Kit are going to be in an update. As someone said below 'It's not implemented yet'.
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But that was not from an official arturia member, was it?

[stuey]

But that was not from an official arturia member, was it?

A beta Tester I believe. But still, makes sense. Kevin on this thread is the Arturia guy. Kevin, can you shed any light onto this?

[ikt]

Hi everyone,

We decided to remove the Jog Wheel shortcut because the Library is now a panel, and it seemed more natural to have a shortcut similar to the ones used for other panels.

Best,

Seb.

How is this not a beta release...

[stuey]

Because the devs had problems with getting it stable in time, the suits posted a release date and it had to go, regardless if it was ready or not.
That's how it works.

The software works, but i need to use the hardware without fiddling around with a mouse or a trackpad, so i'll wait for version 2 to be release ready.

Stu 

[Areis]

> the suits posted a release date and it had to go, regardless if it was ready or not.

I will have to agree with this and as a software developer of 10+ years, I want to give support to the devs behind this program. There is nothing worse than a marketer and boss pushing a release out 2 months before its ready, like they did with Spark 2.

It's not the programmers fault, but I can tell you what they aren't, there egos got crushed on this one because a programmer has a relationship with their code and they know EXACTLY what is wrong with it.

So Arturia Spark devs, yeah we know this program should have been released in June but hey, there are people that understand you want it perfect and hopefully get the time allotted by your bosses to do so.

Mike

[Kevin]

I will let Seb discuss this. He is also an Arturia official and in charge of specifications.

@Mike: thanks for your kind word
 

[Seb]

Hi everyone,

Let me try to explain the reason why we removed this shortcut:

- In Spark 1.0 -> 1.6, there was no browser for instruments in the software. You could either load from the hardware using the screen, or use the mouse and the drop down menus. When using the hardware workflow you didn't need to be in a specific panel to get it to work.

- In 1.7, we added the Browser, which was implemented as a new pop-up window. It was logical to keep the Jog Wheel click shortcut because this window was separate from the rest of the interface.

- In 2.0, the Library browser is a new panel inside the GUI and not a pop-up window anymore. For this reason we decided that it would be logical to open it in the same way as we open the other panels. The shortcuts for panel selection are: Select+step1  through 8 (select+step7 for Library).

     - The Jog Wheel scroll doesn't have any effect unless you are currently viewing the Library panel
     - Now that we have the Select+7 shortcut, the jog dial click is redundant.
     - We want to keep the Jog Wheel click free for future features.


I hope you get the idea behind this decision, and that it won't be a deal breaker for you.

Seb.

[Johann]

I'm really sorry. This is not satisfying for me.