Arturia team, can you please make a statement on a possible update?

[Edouard_Arturia]

Just one concern: There is no word about any Bugfixes, or am I missing that? I will be playing a really big concert with the MB next weekend and I am too scared to update right before that, so I can't check right now. But have the bugs been solved? The FM knob quirk, tap tempo in Sequencer mode, LFO retrigs?

We resolved a lot actually.
See below the release notes:

New Features

Standalone settings mode (Press PRESET + SEQ + MOD)
Preset compare mode (Hold PRESET + Press preset slot)
Custom waveform LFO (Hold LFO < + > to edit the waveform)
LFO triplet and dotted divisions (Hold LFO SEQ-Sync + Press SEQ note, triplet or dotted)
Access 4 pages of custom modulation destinations (16 custom destinations)
Sequencer : Rotate sequence (Hold Tap + press SEQ < or >)
Sequencer : Extend & duplicate sequence (Hold SEQ length + press SEQ >)
Sequencer : Selected step note is now shown on the display
Sequencer : New step edition methods (Hold one step/two steps + turn Mod knob)
Sequencer : Multi-step erase (Hold two steps from the right to the left)
Sequencer : BPM adjustment in whole numbers (Hold tap + turn Rate)
In Duo-Split glide can be applied to the upper part (Hold Voice mode + Press Glide ON/OFF)
Pitch-wheel dead zone can now be edited (MCC / Standalone settings)
Glide mode selection (Rate/Time)
Improvements

Bipolar Audio Mod knobs could not be modulated when in their center position. Modulations now apply to the counter-clockwise routing.
Various Panel mode improvements and fixes
Panel button combo shortcuts can now be released in any order
Init preset minor improvements
Local Control state is now maintained on power-up, can be edited with Standalone Settings
Sequencer : Keyboard can now be played when sequencer is ON with an empty sequence
Sequencer : Reworked real-time modulation recording, stops after one cycle
Sequencer : Legato can now be recorded in real time when legato is ON
Sequencer : Reworked editing of notes and Seq Mod across modes (step recording, real-time recording, recording OFF)
Sequencer : Stays in sync when changing preset
Sequencer : Reworked editing of notes and Seq Mod across modes (step recording, real-time recording, recording OFF)
Sequencer : Press record now enables the sequencer
Arpeggiator : Velocity value per note
Arpeggiator : Record can no longer be enabled in Arp and Matrix-Arp
Velocity curves improvement
Expression & Sustain pedal handling improvement
VCO Coarse LED behavior improvement
Bugfixes

MIDI, USB and Clock Sync are now tight
Sequencer now starts on time at any tempo
LFOs are now stable when tempo-synced
Clock out is no longer reseted to 48 ppq when USB slaved
All parameters are now properly initialized when loading a preset
Various Duo-Split mode fixes (Glide, Sequencer, Legato)
Seq Mod steps can now be properly edited
Save in Panel mode is now consistent
VC01 < Noise > VCF1 knob behavior now targets the right destination
Switching Key Hold OFF doesn't silence the currently played notes
When playing with record On, Tap Tempo doensn't modify the seq length anymore
No more risk to be stuck between Preset and Panel mode
No more note OFF when note velocity value is 0
OSC3 waveform browsing is no longer inverted
CC handling improvements : Parameters are now properly sent and received
Preset, SEQ and Mod buttons are now properly responding when the sequencer is playing
Compare parameter offset no longer displays the preset page upon release
In Duo-Split lower and upper MIDI channel can now be properly adjusted

[KrisL]

Bugfixes

MIDI, USB and Clock Sync are now tight
Sequencer now starts on time at any tempo
LFOs are now stable when tempo-synced
Clock out is no longer reseted to 48 ppq when USB slaved
All parameters are now properly initialized when loading a preset
Various Duo-Split mode fixes (Glide, Sequencer, Legato)
Seq Mod steps can now be properly edited
Save in Panel mode is now consistent
VC01 < Noise > VCF1 knob behavior now targets the right destination
Switching Key Hold OFF doesn't silence the currently played notes
When playing with record On, Tap Tempo doensn't modify the seq length anymore
No more risk to be stuck between Preset and Panel mode
No more note OFF when note velocity value is 0
OSC3 waveform browsing is no longer inverted
CC handling improvements : Parameters are now properly sent and received
Preset, SEQ and Mod buttons are now properly responding when the sequencer is playing
Compare parameter offset no longer displays the preset page upon release
In Duo-Split lower and upper MIDI channel can now be properly adjusted

Edouard - this is more like it. 

Verifiable, testable hard data RE the bug fixes.


I could possibly start forgiving your boss in lieu of the above approach. 

In fact, I think I'll go switch on the MB. 


Best
Kris

[Lunatic Sound]

That sounds so damn good. I still won't dare to update before next week's gigs, but then... I am going to have a wonderful Christmas time, it seems.

Looks like we are finally out of beta and on firmware 1.0! Your bosses owe you a raise, Edou, cause you just turned a rather frustrated customer into a delighted one. And I am obviously not the only one.

If someone had talked to us before, I would be an Arturia Fanboy now.

[DrJustice]

...
I hopw you can accept, that we have different opinions here.

Of course

Many of the requests you supported, as well as others, are in the update, so hopefully you can enjoy it on some level.

[VAU]

i really would love to know one thing:

WHY is not possible to have more than 256 patch spaces (ideally 256x256)?

[VAU]

any answer to this question?

[turbo_kev]

Christ isn't 256 patches stored on board enough
may be there isn't enough spare ram inside to store any more
you can store as many as you like on your pc with the mcc
and download / upload  to your hearts content

But again 256 stored on board should be more than  enough

just my 2p worth

cheers
kev

[VAU]

no it's not enough.

it's not enough in 2019 when you want to organize all your patches.
i got already 7 different banks on my MAC.
and organizing them there into bass, leads etc is on top complicated.

We are talking about a flagship synth

Moog Voyager, 20 years old 7 x128 programs
Waldorf Quantum Up to 10,000 sound patch capacity organized by banks, attributes, author and patch number
Roland XM more than 4000 Preset Sounds & more than 90 Drum Kits
Moog One thousands of presets
etc
etc


why can you ask for let's say more mod destinations and i can't ask for more patch space?

Christ, are 4 mod destinations not enough?


from a flagship synth i ask to have the best possible software
and if more patch space is technically not possible,
then ARTURIA just should say: sorry, is not possible because ...


it's always the same with such threads:
some seem to think they can allow others what to ask for

i bet any money: as soon as ARTURIA would introduce  20 banks of 256 programs,
then everybody would rave about it.

[HUBA]

now, we have more structure in the whole company, more QA processes and we are able to leave more room in plannings to update our products to keep them alive and make the community happy

Good to know! Looking forward to 3.0 

[Chromat1c]

I can't move from even LFO divisions to Triplet ones within one knob movement? I am either stuck in even or triplet once set? Why no smooth movement from even to triplet? Why the clunky way of selecting triplets? I kind of expected that it would be all in one knob. I like setting the LFO to sync then use the other LFO to change the divisions on the first one.

Also. I don't seem to be able to get triplet note divisions out of the delay? Am I missing something here? No triplet delay?

I really hope I am missing something...

[standingwave]

 Unfortunately no triplets in the delay section. I don't know why, but they didnt want to do that for whatever reason.
 We have to use outboard delays for that unfortunately.

[Edouard_Arturia]

Hello !

I wanted to implement the triplets / dotted for the delay as well, but the BBD was too limiting unfortunately.
BBD max time is very short, so in triplet / dotted, only a very few divisions would have be available.
On the other hand, we weren't limited by the technology when implementing new time divisions on the LFOs.

Analog is great but sometimes pretty frustrating as well 

Edouard

[Chromat1c]

Hello !

I wanted to implement the triplets / dotted for the delay as well, but the BBD was too limiting unfortunately.
BBD max time is very short, so in triplet / dotted, only a very few would have be available.
On the other hand, we weren't limited by the technology when implementing new time divisions on the LFOs.

Analog is great but sometimes pretty frustrating as well 

Edouard

To be fair you can tune in a triplet by ear when the BBD is not in sync mode. But one thing that sounds absolutely mad is modulating the BBD divisions with a synced random LFO. Shame that you cant get that extra funk with the in-between odd divisions.

With the LFO divisions. I would have really liked to move fluidly from even to odd. With my DSI eVolver I can set all the available time divisions on 4 synced LFOs on one knob BUT then you cannot modulate the divisions with the sync on.
On the MxB you CAN modulate the time divisions but are either in even world or odd world. Unless I am missing something. I only updated yesterday.

[MajorFubar]

i really would love to know one thing:

WHY is not possible to have more than 256 patch spaces (ideally 256x256)?

Reading between the lines I guess it's a hardware issue: there literally isn't the onboard storage space.

All I ever expected for free were bug fixes. I believe consumers do have a right to expect tech products to work as described, just like they would expect a toaster to do what it says on the box. When bugs are identified preventing the product from working as described, I also believe consumers have a right to expect the bugs to be quickly remedied with periodic dot patches, not three years down the line as part of a major release. That is my only criticism.

The fact that a lot of new functions have been thrown into this release is a huge bonus considering neither you, I, nor any other existing customer has paid a cent for the update. We should be thankful for the additional freebies, not whine about the fact that the toaster we knew only toasted four slices at once when we bought it hasn't been freely upgraded to toast 16 slices or more.

[Lunatic Sound]

It Does toast exactly 16 slices, now, though. Freely assignable to any type of jam on the cupboard.