NOT-QUANTIZED recording --- Kill the grid

[wbonx]

Any update on the unquantized recording feature? Come on guys

[megamarkd]

Buy something that isn't a step sequencer maybe?

[wbonx]

Buy something that isn't a step sequencer maybe?

This is not a step sequencer, can already offset the steps thus plays notes unquantized, everybody is just asking to automatized the unquantized recording.

[megamarkd]

Who's everybody?  Everybody who owns a BSP is not on these boards, only a very small percentage of owners are here and posting and then only a small number of those are saying they want unquantised recording.  "Everybody" is generally happy with what they bought and probably would like the small amount of bugs left in the machine addressed before new  and never promised as core features added.

Yes it is a step-sequencer, it's in it's name.  You also have a funny idea of what unquantised is if note shift is what makes this instrument unquantised already.  It would be nice to have a more intuitive way to implement note shift on the drum sequencer due to it being cumbersome for live performance, but your insistence on a "feature" from the realms of something like the Pyramid or Engine is tiring.  I'm sure those products are available somewhere close-by to you.  I've noticed a tendency to blame instruments when musicians aren't performing as well as they could be, so why not sell the instrument that it is holding back the performance quality and buy the one that will cater to your skills?  Get rid of the scapegoat and get on with making music.

For years decades step-sequencers were actually really hard to come by with everything on the market being full-blown multi-track sequencers with 480+ divisions to a crotchet (1/4) note.  Not setting the quantisation level to that which matched your playing abilities was actually a very destructive mistake with notes being pulled around into completely the wrong positions necessitating another take as there was no undo function like we have since the advent of the DAW.  Turning it off altogether was something only very practised musicians dared to do without knowing they will have to go into event-edit and manually pull the notes into place.  More expensive sequencers had a step-input function but never a real time looping step-recording feature due to none of them had the original per-note on/off and value settings that came with the pre-MIDI step-sequencers.  Real step-sequencers were being made by boutique companies and cost a small fortune in comparison to MIDI sequencers and tended to only have one channel and be produced in small runs.  Even the groove boxes that came at the beginning of the century had sequencers with at least 24ppqn (the original MIDI sequencer standard) but was the beginning of a move to large companies going back to the steppers of yore and the removal of that robotic-human feel of the MIDI sequencer to the full-robot swing that was missing for all those years.

Which brings us to 2014 with Arturia leading the revival of the stand-alone step-sequencer that has helped invigorate the analogue renascence they also helped make happen.

[wbonx]

Man just stop posting here if you don't like this function. Go online on many forums people are asking for unquantized recording, It would be a game changing function and can be technically done.

Also not here to have a lesson from you on sequencers. Hugs.

[megamarkd]

Don't need your hugs, mate.  If you don't want opinions on your idea, maybe you shouldn't post them on the General Discussion.  I put the history lesson in for you to understand where the cry for a STEP-SEQUENCER came from and why Arturia designed and released a BeatStep and the BeatStep Pro, not the FreeSeq and FreeSeq Pro....

I've noticed a tendency to blame instruments when musicians aren't performing as well as they could be, so why not sell the instrument that it is holding back the performance quality and buy the one that will cater to your skills?  Get rid of the scapegoat and get on with making music.

[Terrym]

Hi wbonx,

There is no new feature included and it fixes half the bugs the machine has.

Which bug is remaining?

Regards,
Y.

Hi IGREc 
I have posted in the beta forum a nasty bug in pattern chaining that i hope gets fixed

Terrym

[wbonx]

Hi wbonx,
Probably in a future update.

Regards,
Y.

Hello Igrec,

chance that we will get the firmware  to be able to mod the unquantized recording by ourself?
Seems you must be quite busy with the new products that came out recently.

W.

[wbonx]

Don't need your hugs, mate.  If you don't want opinions on your idea, maybe you shouldn't post them on the General Discussion.  I put the history lesson in for you to understand where the cry for a STEP-SEQUENCER came from and why Arturia designed and released a BeatStep and the BeatStep Pro, not the FreeSeq and FreeSeq Pro....

I've noticed a tendency to blame instruments when musicians aren't performing as well as they could be, so why not sell the instrument that it is holding back the performance quality and buy the one that will cater to your skills?  Get rid of the scapegoat and get on with making music.

Man don't give up on me!!!! Tell us more stuff... culture in important, almost as important as making the beatstep pro able to record a shift/offset from the step on a recorded note!

Karma UP!

 

[megamarkd]

Man don't give up on me!!!! Tell us more stuff... culture in important, almost as important as making the beatstep pro able to record a shift/offset from the step on a recorded note!

Karma UP!

 

Mate, I'm as clueless as anyone else as to if we will get another update.  I have my wishes for what I'd like to be added (tempo transmitted in stopped state for eg), but until they come, I'll go about using other devices to compensate for it all.  Still, I can't wait to get my cashflow back upto scratch 'coz I want a black BSP!

I own a swag of sequencers, including a Pyramid, which can record unquantised, though I tend to use it set to 24ppqn when I play into it.  I've never been a spot-on keys-player (I'm better with finger drumming) so straight recording my playing doesn't really give a "human" feel to it, more the feel of a student pianist who doesn't practice LOL.
Even with the Pyramid, so much prefer my Arturia sequencers, too easy to just thump a pattern in and loop away.

Novation are including a sequencer on their latest iteration of the SL controller.  Dunno if it does unquantised recording, but if it's anything like their Circuit, it doesn't....

[redon]

guys how can you still stand the fact that no nrpn is being sent? really. it is so frustrating. new upgrades have been rolling out, and an ADVERTISED feature is still not even there, after 5 years. this is incredible. it's OT, I know, but... I am a polite person, i'm not gonna write anything more than few caps here and there, but frankly as a customer I feel mocked. I could return this product under its warranty, because if you sell something that doesn't function as expected, EU gives you full support for returns. and instead i've chosen to entrust Arturia with my patience. this is incredible. the small sized company should be a warranty for good customer care, not for throwing out new incomplete stuff greeding for money.
Coming back to the topic, this not-quantized recording, it already exists in the new impact. I frankly don't understand why it cannot be ported. did you max out your 48kb? well... just say it , for crying out loud! (at least we would stop expecting stuff)

[wbonx]

guys how can you still stand the fact that no nrpn is being sent? really. it is so frustrating. new upgrades have been rolling out, and an ADVERTISED feature is still not even there, after 5 years. this is incredible. it's OT, I know, but... I am a polite person, i'm not gonna write anything more than few caps here and there, but frankly as a customer I feel mocked. I could return this product under its warranty, because if you sell something that doesn't function as expected, EU gives you full support for returns. and instead i've chosen to entrust Arturia with my patience. this is incredible. the small sized company should be a warranty for good customer care, not for throwing out new incomplete stuff greeding for money.
Coming back to the topic, this not-quantized recording, it already exists in the new impact. I frankly don't understand why it cannot be ported. did you max out your 48kb? well... just say it , for crying out loud! (at least we would stop expecting stuff)

Yeah that's OT I guess, but their attitude is very annoying.

If a developer is here can you guys just release the code or make it open source to allow modding?!!!!

Or write me in private and I may implement a stupid function to automatically records the shift of the notes.

The situation starts being ridiculous!

[SwamiRob]

To avoid having to post another thread on the same thing, is this still planned to be implemented at some point? I've got a drumbrute, but the inability to change velocity on the hardware, and the limited pattern memory makes it a little difficult to work with for what I'm trying to do with it, and I've not come across anything else to program & sequence stuff with non-quantized recording & velocity sensitive pads that would be an alternative. Seems like the BSP would be perfect for a bit more memory and fine tuning velocity, and seems perfect apart from the lack of non-quantized recording.