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StephenJamesBennett

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Arpeggiator—how do I do that?
« on: April 16, 2017, 04:13:13 pm »
Hi all

Latest Firmware.

I'd assumed all you do is turn on the Arpeggiator and play some keys. That's what seems to happen in the Arturia demo. What happens with mine is I play the keys it arpeggiates once then stops. The Right Play button is lit (I see it's the middle one in the video). This is the same whatever mode I'm in.

I'm sure I'm doing something simply wrong!

Stephen


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Re: Arpeggiator—how do I do that?
« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2017, 06:29:30 pm »
MIDI loop?

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Re: Arpeggiator—how do I do that?
« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2017, 07:42:57 pm »
The midi sync (knob above the arpergiator knob)  needs to be off  is it?
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Re: Arpeggiator—how do I do that?
« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2017, 06:20:36 pm »
Check to make sure the 'KEY HOLD' is on.  It is next to your MOD wheels.  This needs to be on for the ARP to loop.

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Re: Arpeggiator—how do I do that?
« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2017, 06:24:54 pm »
Key Hold does not need to be on for the arp to loop unless you have a midi loop.

Anyone that is having issues with the arp looping please remove any midi leads and the usb lead and try again, if it works fine then you had a midi loop.

This is the third thread in a couple of weeks about this.


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Re: Arpeggiator—how do I do that?
« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2017, 07:50:25 pm »
Key Hold does not need to be on for the arp to loop unless you have a midi loop.

Anyone that is having issues with the arp looping please remove any midi leads and the usb lead and try again, if it works fine then you had a midi loop.

This is the third thread in a couple of weeks about this.
I didn't realize it was supposed to work that way.  The only way I can get the ARP to loop on mine is with Key Hold activated.  Even with no midi connections.

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Re: Arpeggiator—how do I do that?
« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2017, 07:55:12 pm »
Sounds strange.

So if you take say factory patch A4, turn on arp and play 3 notes (and hold your fingers down) the arp doesn't loop?

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Re: Arpeggiator—how do I do that?
« Reply #7 on: April 17, 2017, 08:11:08 pm »
Sounds strange.

So if you take say factory patch A4, turn on arp and play 3 notes (and hold your fingers down) the arp doesn't loop?
I see now.  I was thinking the original post was saying it wouldn't loop AT ALL.  So you are correct.  If I hold the keys down mine does loop.
« Last Edit: April 17, 2017, 08:12:51 pm by minus_ego »

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Re: Arpeggiator—how do I do that?
« Reply #8 on: April 17, 2017, 08:40:44 pm »
Good stuff.

The problem that other people seem to be having with the arp and a midi loop is that if you have the MB setup to send out the individual arp note midi messages then they get sent back to the MB and each note off message turns off the relevant key that you are holding down, so after a note off is received for every key you are holding down the arp stops.


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Re: Arpeggiator—how do I do that?
« Reply #9 on: April 18, 2017, 10:42:53 am »
Hi all—thanks for the replies.

'So if you take say factory patch A4, turn on arp and play 3 notes (and hold your fingers down) the arp doesn't loop?'

No—and one would think it should!

I'll try unplugging the USB port when I get into the studio—no MIDI cables connected.

'The problem that other people seem to be having with the arp and a midi loop is that if you have the MB setup to send out the individual arp note midi messages...''

How do you turn that off?

Stephen


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Re: Arpeggiator—how do I do that?
« Reply #10 on: April 18, 2017, 10:48:52 am »
Open up midi control centre, go to the matrix brute device tab and set "Sequencer/Arp sends notes" to off.

But you will still see other issues if you have a midi loop going on.

Trying it with the USB cable removed would be a good way to check.
« Last Edit: April 18, 2017, 10:50:27 am by BobTheDog »

StephenJamesBennett

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Re: Arpeggiator—how do I do that?
« Reply #11 on: April 19, 2017, 05:27:45 pm »
Well that was weird—definitely some kind of USB issue that cleared itself on reboot—I was 'in the zone' when I asked this so didn't have time to power  it all down. Worked fine today syncing to Logic Pro.

Thanks everyone for your suggestions.

Stephen

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Re: Arpeggiator—how do I do that?
« Reply #12 on: April 19, 2017, 07:59:47 pm »
Good stuff.

To stop it coming back the thing to make sure is not to echo the midi data back to the MB from logic. If you do have tracks with both in and out MB midi assigned you can turn off midi thru in logic for the instrument: https://documentation.apple.com/en/logicpro/usermanual/index.html#chapter=14%26section=26%26tasks=true

 

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