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Spark midi remote script : lets get it working
« on: February 18, 2014, 05:00:18 pm »
It's time to work on the spark midi remote script,
to clarify the other post, we will work on the spark script here.

Where are we now ?

the table below showes the OUTPUT message for the 5 first pattern button ( when the spark software send information to the surface )

TIMESTAMPINPORTstatusDATA1DATA2CHANNOTEEVENT    
00000988 3 4 90 11 00 1 "F0"Note On   
00000AB4 3 4 80 11 00 1 "F0"Note Off   
00000C44 3 4 90 11 01 1 "F0"Note On   
00000DA2 3 4 80 11 01 1 "F0"Note Off   
00000F00 3 4 90 11 02 1 "F0"Note On   
00000FFA 3 4 80 11 02 1 "F0"Note Off   
00001158 3 4 90 11 03 1 "F0"Note On   
00001284 3 4 80 11 03 1 "F0"Note Off   
00001415 3 4 90 11 04 1 "F0"Note On   
0000150F 3 4 80 11 04 1 "F0"Note Off   

But the Input message ( when you press a key ) have different value.

What could be perfect is to have a scrrenshot of the sparkle, on wich for each pad the input and the output value is written ( and the velocity).

I am working on it tonight, so lets do it :)



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Re: Spark midi remote script : lets get it working
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2014, 07:06:59 pm »
i am trying to collect the MIDI data coming from the Spark CDM through a MIDI port called "Spark Private IN". hope this helps for a start...
I am using the application "MIDI Monitor" on OS X.

Pad 1-8:
17:19:31.915   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note On   1   C-2   36
17:19:31.947   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note Off   1   C-2   0
17:19:34.120   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note On   1   C#-2   88
17:19:34.152   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note Off   1   C#-2   0
17:19:37.830   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note On   1   D-2   50
17:19:37.862   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note Off   1   D-2   0
17:19:38.247   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note On   1   D#-2   39
17:19:38.279   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note Off   1   D#-2   0
17:19:38.664   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note On   1   E-2   84
17:19:38.696   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note Off   1   E-2   0
17:19:39.063   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note On   1   F-2   91
17:19:39.095   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note Off   1   F-2   0
17:19:39.471   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note On   1   F#-2   101
17:19:39.503   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note Off   1   F#-2   0
17:19:39.876   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note On   1   G-2   127
17:19:39.908   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note Off   1   G-2   0


Buttons "Select" /"1-8/9-16" / "mute" / "Solo"
17:21:36.002   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note On   1   F-1   38
17:21:36.152   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note Off   1   F-1   38
17:21:36.852   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note On   1   F-1   44
17:21:36.952   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note Off   1   F-1   44
17:21:37.552   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note On   1   F-1   40
17:21:37.652   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note Off   1   F-1   40
17:21:38.302   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note On   1   F-1   39
17:21:38.402   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note Off   1   F-1   39

Buttons 1-16:
17:22:20.651   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note Off   1   F-1   0
17:22:20.751   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note Off   1   F-1   0
17:22:21.001   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note On   1   F-1   1
17:22:21.151   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note Off   1   F-1   1
17:22:21.351   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note On   1   F-1   2
17:22:21.501   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note Off   1   F-1   2
17:22:21.701   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note On   1   F-1   3
17:22:21.851   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note Off   1   F-1   3
17:22:22.052   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note On   1   F-1   4
17:22:22.252   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note Off   1   F-1   4
17:22:22.452   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note On   1   F-1   5
17:22:22.552   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note Off   1   F-1   5
17:22:22.802   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note On   1   F-1   6
17:22:22.952   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note Off   1   F-1   6
17:22:23.152   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note On   1   F-1   7
17:22:23.302   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note Off   1   F-1   7
17:22:23.503   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note On   1   F-1   8
17:22:23.653   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note Off   1   F-1   8
17:22:23.853   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note On   1   F-1   9
17:22:24.003   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note Off   1   F-1   9
17:22:24.203   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note On   1   F-1   10
17:22:24.403   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note Off   1   F-1   10
17:22:24.553   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note On   1   F-1   11
17:22:24.753   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note Off   1   F-1   11
17:22:24.903   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note On   1   F-1   12
17:22:25.103   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note Off   1   F-1   12
17:22:25.303   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note On   1   F-1   13
17:22:25.453   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note Off   1   F-1   13
17:22:25.653   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note On   1   F-1   14
17:22:25.803   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note Off   1   F-1   14
17:22:26.003   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note On   1   F-1   15
17:22:26.153   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note Off   1   F-1   15

Buttons "Record" / "Stop" / "Pause/Play" / "TAP":
17:23:18.854   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note On   1   F-1   52
17:23:19.004   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note Off   1   F-1   52
17:23:23.204   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note On   1   F-1   51
17:23:23.354   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note Off   1   F-1   51
17:23:24.054   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note On   1   F-1   50
17:23:24.254   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note Off   1   F-1   50
17:23:27.204   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note On   1   F-1   49
17:23:27.354   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note Off   1   F-1   49

the 8 x 3 encoders are relative. they send 65 clockwise and 63 counterclockwise.
their CC numbers are:
00 03 06 09 12 15 18 21
01 04 07 10 13 16 19 22
02 05 08 11 14 17 20 23

the encoders "Cutoff / Resonance / Aux 1 / Aux 2 / Panning / Volume" send: 29 / 28 / 27 / 26 / 25 / 24

encoder Tempo: 35
encoder Divide: 34
encoder Move: 33
encoder Shuffle: 32
encoder Master Volume: 31

buttons Pattern 1-16:
17:33:33.785   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note On   1   F-1   16
17:33:33.935   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note Off   1   F-1   16
17:33:34.586   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note On   1   F-1   17
17:33:34.736   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note Off   1   F-1   17
17:33:35.436   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note On   1   F-1   18
17:33:35.586   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note Off   1   F-1   18
17:33:35.787   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note On   1   F-1   19
17:33:35.937   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note Off   1   F-1   19
17:33:36.135   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note On   1   F-1   20
17:33:36.235   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note Off   1   F-1   20
17:33:36.436   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note On   1   F-1   21
17:33:36.585   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note Off   1   F-1   21
17:33:36.786   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note On   1   F-1   22
17:33:36.936   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note Off   1   F-1   22
17:33:37.087   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note On   1   F-1   23
17:33:37.237   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note Off   1   F-1   23
17:33:37.435   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note On   1   F-1   24
17:33:37.585   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note Off   1   F-1   24
17:33:37.785   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note On   1   F-1   25
17:33:37.935   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note Off   1   F-1   25
17:33:38.136   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note On   1   F-1   26
17:33:38.286   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note Off   1   F-1   26
17:33:38.487   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note On   1   F-1   27
17:33:38.587   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note Off   1   F-1   27
17:33:38.885   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note On   1   F-1   28
17:33:39.035   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note Off   1   F-1   28
17:33:39.185   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note On   1   F-1   29
17:33:39.335   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note Off   1   F-1   29
17:33:39.536   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note On   1   F-1   30
17:33:39.686   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note Off   1   F-1   30
17:33:40.087   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note On   1   F-1   31
17:33:40.237   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note Off   1   F-1   31

buttons Bank A/B/C/D:
17:34:08.737   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note On   1   F-1   32
17:34:08.887   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note Off   1   F-1   32
17:34:09.137   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note On   1   F-1   33
17:34:09.337   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note Off   1   F-1   33
17:34:09.537   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note On   1   F-1   34
17:34:09.737   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note Off   1   F-1   34
17:34:09.987   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note On   1   F-1   35
17:34:10.187   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note Off   1   F-1   35

button Song:
17:34:18.937   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note On   1   F-1   45
17:34:19.137   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note Off   1   F-1   45

the big dial:
17:34:33.734   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Control   1   30   65


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Re: Spark midi remote script : lets get it working
« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2014, 07:12:20 pm »
ok, this is exactly what i wanted i work on it and send you a pre-alpha version within half an hour

if i understand well, only the pad are sensitive to velocity

when you press select or 18/916  button and save on live, does it record the same note butwith a different velocity?
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Re: Spark midi remote script : lets get it working
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2014, 07:18:13 pm »
pads have actually aftertouch like here:

17:36:03.030   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note Off   1   C-2   0
17:36:03.083   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Aftertouch   1   C-2   28
17:36:03.105   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Aftertouch   1   C-2   39
17:36:03.126   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Aftertouch   1   C-2   47
17:36:03.148   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Aftertouch   1   C-2   67
17:36:03.169   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Aftertouch   1   C-2   75
17:36:03.191   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Aftertouch   1   C-2   82
17:36:03.212   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Aftertouch   1   C-2   89
17:36:03.234   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Aftertouch   1   C-2   94
17:36:03.255   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Aftertouch   1   C-2   93
17:36:03.276   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Aftertouch   1   C-2   104
17:36:03.298   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Aftertouch   1   C-2   106
17:36:03.319   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Aftertouch   1   C-2   107
17:36:03.341   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Aftertouch   1   C-2   111
17:36:03.362   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Aftertouch   1   C-2   115
17:36:03.384   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Aftertouch   1   C-2   125
17:36:03.405   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Aftertouch   1   C-2   127
17:36:04.414   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Aftertouch   1   C-2   123
17:36:04.435   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Aftertouch   1   C-2   120
17:36:04.478   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Aftertouch   1   C-2   124
17:36:04.500   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Aftertouch   1   C-2   125
17:36:04.521   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Aftertouch   1   C-2   127
17:36:04.907   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Aftertouch   1   C-2   126
17:36:04.929   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Aftertouch   1   C-2   127
17:36:04.950   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Aftertouch   1   C-2   126
17:36:04.993   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Aftertouch   1   C-2   125
17:36:05.058   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Aftertouch   1   C-2   124
17:36:05.079   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Aftertouch   1   C-2   121
17:36:05.101   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Aftertouch   1   C-2   117
17:36:05.122   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Aftertouch   1   C-2   116
17:36:05.165   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Aftertouch   1   C-2   115
17:36:05.186   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Aftertouch   1   C-2   111
17:36:05.208   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Aftertouch   1   C-2   100
17:36:05.229   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Aftertouch   1   C-2   99
17:36:05.251   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Aftertouch   1   C-2   96
17:36:05.272   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Aftertouch   1   C-2   85
17:36:05.294   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Aftertouch   1   C-2   81
17:36:05.315   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Aftertouch   1   C-2   78
17:36:05.337   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Aftertouch   1   C-2   74
17:36:05.358   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Aftertouch   1   C-2   61
17:36:05.380   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Aftertouch   1   C-2   46
17:36:05.401   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Aftertouch   1   C-2   35
17:36:05.423   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Aftertouch   1   C-2   34
17:36:05.444   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Aftertouch   1   C-2   32
17:36:05.466   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Aftertouch   1   C-2   27
17:36:05.487   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Aftertouch   1   C-2   24
17:36:05.508   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Aftertouch   1   C-2   18
17:36:05.530   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Aftertouch   1   C-2   5
17:36:05.540   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note Off   1   C-2   0

the buttons use the velocity to be distinguished since they use the same pitch.

Quote from: raztua on February 18, 2014, 07:12:20 pm
ok, this is exactly what i wanted i work on it and send you a pre-alpha version within half an hour

if i understand well, only the pad are sensitive to velocity
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Re: Spark midi remote script : lets get it working
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2014, 07:27:17 pm »
ok thank, and what about the test in live ?
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Re: Spark midi remote script : lets get it working
« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2014, 08:03:00 pm »
Lets try a simple script : i have attached it to this post but i don't know how it works

if you don't find it it is on mediafire too :
sources
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Re: Spark midi remote script : lets get it working
« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2014, 08:19:59 pm »
you mean if Pad "9" sends a different note value that Pad "1"? no.
Pad 1:
17:42:05.983   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note On   1   C-2   22
17:42:06.015   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note Off   1   C-2   0

Pad 9:
17:42:21.210   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note On   1   F-1   44
17:42:21.410   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note Off   1   F-1   44
17:42:23.006   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note On   1   C-2   8
17:42:23.038   From Spark Controller Spark Private IN   Note Off   1   C-2   0

or did I misunderstand you?

will now test your script...

Quote from: raztua on February 18, 2014, 07:12:20 pm
when you press select or 18/916  button and save on live, does it record the same note butwith a different velocity?
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Re: Spark midi remote script : lets get it working
« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2014, 08:41:09 pm »
thi script is really simple: you press play and you see the led blinking
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Re: Spark midi remote script : lets get it working
« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2014, 08:46:35 pm »
hm... doesn't seem to work at all:
* when I select it as Control Surface I don't get the red rectangular.
* when I hit Play (on the Spark hardware) nothing happens.

please have a look at the attached screenshot. your .RAR had a spark folder in a spark folder. I copied the inner folder into Live.app. I guess this is correct?
HOW THE HELL DO I ATTACH IMAGES???
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Re: Spark midi remote script : lets get it working
« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2014, 08:56:18 pm »
no it is a simple script, play button wont work on the surface and the yellow box is not set yet
just push play on the live software :)
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Re: Spark midi remote script : lets get it working
« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2014, 08:59:36 pm »
which LED exactly should blink?

Quote from: raztua on February 18, 2014, 08:56:18 pm
no it is a simple script, play button wont work on the surface and the yellow box is not set yet
just push play on the live software :)
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Re: Spark midi remote script : lets get it working
« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2014, 09:00:26 pm »
if you cant see the leds, it means that it doesn work, it should be the pattern buttons from 1 to 16
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Re: Spark midi remote script : lets get it working
« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2014, 09:03:35 pm »
you are working on a mac??
you have to copy only one folder ( not the second folder )
and you can find info here : http://sonicbloom.net/en/ableton-live-tutorial-how-to-install-midi-remote-scripts/
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Re: Spark midi remote script : lets get it working
« Reply #13 on: February 18, 2014, 09:07:05 pm »
we might misunderstand each other. so lets be really precise:
Spark hardware is in Spark Mode
I load a new emtpy project
I hit PLAY in Live
I can see the postion marker run through the 16 white buttons

good? bad? right? wrong?

Quote from: raztua on February 18, 2014, 09:00:26 pm
if you cant see the leds, it means that it doesn work, it should be the pattern buttons from 1 to 16
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Re: Spark midi remote script : lets get it working
« Reply #14 on: February 18, 2014, 09:08:33 pm »
right ou have perfectly understood.
You have the choice between spark and midi mode?
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