Concept2 Movable electromagnetic potentiometers on screen

[Teuf]

Yes, even if you reduce the size of the second picture we can see the Prodyssey take more place in depth than the two other Creamware's ASB  :?

But the "O'RLY" (which I don't know...what's that ?) seems to be quite compact and intersting  

Thanks Slammah2012
...with your own sensibility, how would you design an ergonomic  "general-purpose" interface ?

Teuf

(so, it's not a war with knobs against sliders...hmmm? ...he he  :wink: )

[slammah2012]

the 38 pots and 25 switches on the prodyssey should naturly take more room than the 28 pots 14 switches of the minimax and the spaceless 29 pots 24 switches on the pro12....

BTW .... the interesting slider picture ...was made in 1978...
......

let me expand on that for you...., just under the little lid

and only 5 rotary pots......
the CS80.....the most playable intuitive synth alive....sliders on top, detented rocker arms in the performance area...
Controls you can reach up and grab

[Teuf]

I did't know this "James Bond" pannel :shock: nice !

Yes, you're right, sorry , I thought sliders take more space ... but with little sliders such Prodyssey ones you can put a lot of parameters on a few surface       :oops: ...I never seen/considered this point (bouhou !)
In add ...it is possible to reduce the space at the left and the right of each sliders where knobs need a minimum space to move finger around them... :roll:

Thanks to open my eyes Slammah
Enen if I prefer the knobs feeling ... I must admit that sliders are more interesting I have imagined (good conjugation in english ?  :? )

If I would want to play the fool I would say it would be possible to reduce the size of knob too ... but I can't think it may be very handy  :?

So, a little question... would a little virtual slider on a touch screen be enough precis compared to a movable knob on a electromagnetic touch screen ?

Possible

I would preffer you be less enigmatic...I like share/discuss with you ;-)

Teuf

[Vincent T]

Teuf,
As I didn't answered your mails yet, why not starting a debate here..

Your idea (in the concept)  is very interesting, and even more, a bit like the 'grail of the synth modelisation'.(same interface, same physical contact, etc..)

but about your magnetic knobs :
 
1 - It's not obvious because it's a separate part of the synth - what will happen if you lose your knob before a gig?

2 - on stage again you don't have to be very precise when you manipulate your filter cutoff (for instance) on a traditionnal synth, because the knob can't move, and can only rotate. what will happen with a moving knob in a case of 'musical emergency' ?

[slammah2012]

Teuf,
As I didn't answered your mails yet, why not starting a debate here..

Your idea (in the concept)  is very interesting, and even more, a bit like the 'grail of the synth modelisation'.(same interface, same physical contact, etc..)

but about your magnetic knobs :
 
1 - It's not obvious because it's a separate part of the synth - what will happen if you lose your knob before a gig?

2 - on stage again you don't have to be very precise when you manipulate your filter cutoff (for instance) on a traditionnal synth, because the knob can't move, and can only rotate. what will happen with a moving knob in a case of 'musical emergency' ?

lol.....the only time I had to move a knob in a musical emergency was when my CS80 stand toppled over on top of our drumset.....

[Teuf]

 1 - It's not obvious because it's a separate part of the synth - what will happen if you lose your knob before a gig?

(I think 2 pieces are sufficient)
You have to clip it on its axis if you didn't want to loose it (them). The MoPot never stand on the screen wen the interface is OFF.



And even if you lose it...you can use the main dial who can control each parametrer if you select it on the screen with your finger (touch screen)
in the same way you use a Triton or a Oasys.

I think the MoPot's will be efficient in studio during sound designing or audio/MIDI mixing.

2 - on stage again you don't have to be very precise when you manipulate your filter cutoff (for instance) on a traditionnal synth, because the knob can't move, and can only rotate. what will happen with a moving knob in a case of 'musical emergency' ?

In this case, to "secure" a gig, you can (you must) use one of the 22/24 assignables rotary knobs around the screen (like the ORIGIN in fact)
It must be handy and easy to use : you select a parameter on the screen with your finger and at the same time you push on the knob at your choise to assign it  



And it also possible to use a virtual slider on the screen if the sensivity of the screen allow it ... or several of them if the screen is a multitouch system  (Slammah :wink: ) I like this spec too    

Teuf

[Teuf]

Wow...a new forum :-)
Ootch !  No so handy to view pics 

Teuf

[Teuf]

I just find another concrete example about graphical interface who use a huge quantity of potentiometers to edit parameters :
The kind of interface where I wish use MoPot's in real time



Teuf

[johnnyz]

And here it is, a working model of your MoPot idea:

http://girtonlabs.googlepages.com/sensesurface

[Teuf]

Thanks, many tanks
My heart is full with joy 

Teuf