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DvergRuben

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Pattern Nudge
« on: February 08, 2017, 08:16:13 pm »
It would be incredibly useful to be able to move an entire sequence one step forwards or backwards, for instance by holding the "sequencer 1", "sequencer 2" or "drum" button and pushing << or >>.

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Re: Pattern Nudge
« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2017, 09:11:26 am »
I had exactly the same idea.. this should be extremely easy to implement. If the BSP software was written well, this could be less than a day's worth of effort (plus updating the manual..).
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Re: Pattern Nudge
« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2017, 09:10:37 pm »
+1 for this. I expected this to be in the newest firmware but guess we have to wait another year.

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Re: Pattern Nudge
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2017, 12:16:38 am »
and another year for

save pattern chains to the MCC  not just the bsp itself
and a ratchet feature

oh well
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Re: Pattern Nudge
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2017, 04:53:57 am »
+1 for pattern nudge

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Re: Pattern Nudge
« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2017, 09:42:11 am »
Yup, defo keen on this idea!

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Re: Pattern Nudge
« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2017, 07:58:19 am »
+1 for nudging. Please! Can't be hard to implement, surely?

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Re: Pattern Nudge
« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2017, 06:13:13 pm »
++++++ For pattern nudge

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Re: Pattern Nudge
« Reply #8 on: July 26, 2017, 12:26:26 am »
+1!

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Re: Pattern Nudge
« Reply #9 on: July 26, 2017, 02:24:44 pm »
Well it looks like the chained pattern does get saved to the mcc  when you save a project
its just that you don't see it

so I am now just waiting for a ratchet feature
then it will do all I want

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Re: Pattern Nudge
« Reply #10 on: July 26, 2017, 07:09:31 pm »
Hi All ,
I don't think this is possible as it would require too much cpu and the BSP has to deal with 3 sequences all ready.


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Re: Pattern Nudge
« Reply #11 on: July 27, 2017, 12:29:44 pm »
maybe  ratchet on just 1 of the sequencers ?

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Re: Pattern Nudge
« Reply #12 on: July 28, 2017, 01:17:36 am »
Hi All ,
I don't think this is possible as it would require too much cpu and the BSP has to deal with 3 sequences all ready.


Terrym

A nudge feature would consume too much CPU? Seriously?

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Re: Pattern Nudge
« Reply #13 on: July 28, 2017, 01:18:30 am »
Kev, I think you need to forget about ratchet making it to the BSP.  We got given channel-per-drumpad + real polyrhythm drum tracks and also pattern chaining and saving out of a machine originally spec'ed for not nearly as complex tasks.  The machine is maxed out for sure.

I grabbed a Pyramid about two months before the last firmware update for polyrhythms.  It's a very complex sequencer and has step-nudge but it doesn't do ratchet.  It's also sitting dormant since the last BSP firmware update.
I tried the Zaquencer demo which has ratchet.  Not enough time to set the thing up and then experiment before the demo shut-down time so reloaded the original firmware.
Got a 2nd hand Circuit cheap, it's got step-nudge and a nice interface but not as versatile as a Beatstep Pro.  No ratchet though.
Currently running https://www.modulargrid.net/e/racks/view/1311723 / www.modulargrid.net, sequencing with KSP and recording with a Zoom (no DAW involved, for better or worse ;) )

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Re: Pattern Nudge
« Reply #14 on: November 25, 2017, 07:50:08 am »
Hi All ,
I don't think this is possible as it would require too much cpu and the BSP has to deal with 3 sequences all ready.


Terrym

Sorry to bump an old thread but I was wondering if this was in reply to ratcheting, pattern shifting or both? I'm still holding out hope for pattern shifting. Even if it can only be done while the sequencer is stopped.

Ratcheting I get. Need a UI mechanism to add/edit/remove them, a bunch of run-time code to listen for (active) ratched steps and insert them, possibly a ton of new MIDI data being pushed through the internal pipes... 

Manual pattern nudge I don't quite get (but I believe it, so I'm asking for clarification). I obviously don't know anything about the actual code involved in making the magic that is the BSP happen but from the outside it seems like re-ordering an array. And I'm guessing (foolishly, probably) the code to do that is already baked in for other uses. Of course, it's probably a lot more complicated than that!

I get that there are limitations, and like @megamarkd said, this box has already over delivered for me.

 

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