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umbral

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MINI LAB MK III (3)
« on: October 13, 2022, 03:32:42 pm »
https://www.musicradar.com/news/arturia-rendez-vous-livestream

https://www.facebook.com/Arturia.Instruments

Our MiniLab MkIII is almost here! We're working hard to get it to you as soon as we can. We can't communicate an exact date yet, but it will definitely be this year.
And please don't hang back - let us know what features, if any, you're most excited to see in the Mk III! 😉


You may also try to make an Arturia variant - call it "MiniPad" similar to Presonus Atom SQ but with more than 32 pads - instead of the normal keys.

For MK III Mini Lab some very good ideas would be to :

1) Make it with mini keys in 37, 49 and 61 configurations since 25 keys are way too limiting for most work.

2) Further improve the keybed dynamics and give it the ability to play very soft/gentle (great sensitivity - offer more custom sensitivity values and make sure black and white keys behave the same) while also insulating all noisy sounds that a normal plastic keyboard usually produces. You can even add after touch.

3) Put 16 pads instead of 8, and allow for individual setting of sensitivity for each pad like on Nektar LX+
Or keep 8 pads on the lower keys models, but use better sensitivity pads (new sensor/new material for pads) like on the Nektar Aura (currently the best pads on the market)
Very important for the pads try to use as DEFAULT setting the same "Dynamic" setting they use, that can be found in this video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_ofeNrOTwM since it is the best way to have dynamic pads with such a setting and allow the user to control the sensitivity by max pressure/output at a certain value.

4) 8 knobs are enough, 16 too much.

5) Add many scales and root notes so you can play on white keys only the right scales (something like Scaler 2 plugin that has hundreds of scales). Make it so that each consecutive white key for example can play the next key in a scale while muting the black keys. Do not duplicate or mute "wrong keys in a scale" since it defeats the purpose of consecutive keys.

6) Add some DAW integration, take inspiration from : https://www.presonus.com/products/ATOM-SQ (their pads are very bad quality - they double trigger and many clients returned their product, but the rest is ok)
Also think about an Arturia MiniPad product, better than the Presonus, with integration for major Daws.

7) Add a small LCD screen where you can change scales, sensitivity of individual pads, sensitivity of keys, split, fixed chords etc.

8 ) Two Arpeggiators and or a chord feature, for keys and pads, more pad maps, integration with most Daws, take inspiration from Nektar LX Mini : https://nektartech.com/impact-lx-mini/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nh-GZIfjGo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QVNBj32H3A

9) Allow to use the pads as extra keys, so you can have the keys in an octave and the pads to continue above or below the keys. Also add some kind of Mutate / Deviate random notes generator of Arpeggiator. See inspiration from Novation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqSLeGsjevY

10) Keep price decent.

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Also if you make a 49 or 61 micro key MiniLab MKIII take a look at Oxygen Mini PRO layout - you can definitely stick 8 x 2 pads (16 in total) and 4-8 faders + 4-8 knobs.
Here some pics of 49/61 micro keys from Korg and Oxygen Pro Mini.

https://www.mcmusic.ro/15274-large_default/korg-microkey2-61-controller-midi.jpg?fbclid=IwAR2EVeQsdho99yKdajNFTK9GcEgMZYHZqF6DpcXCssBuiksVGz5zMphPSYo

https://www.mcmusic.ro/15272-large_default/korg-microkey2-49-controller-midi.jpg?fbclid=IwAR3y-zXc2svCr2a4FCwK_L0DtP9ljp0okFw5a-9b0J-lmFGIEsmaY0T3EO0

https://cdn.inmusicbrands.com/m-audio/product-images/oxygenProMini/Oxygen-mini-web-4.png?fbclid=IwAR0DAU5L9BYgg9EiSynouQipbZdVPYeENI1vY_G1p6TAKeM3_GpGxzP_JLI
« Last Edit: October 16, 2022, 12:15:31 pm by umbral »

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Re: MINI LAB MK III (3)
« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2022, 12:16:55 pm »
Please, Arturia forum community, users and clients, do add your own constructive suggestions  :)

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Re: MINI LAB MK III (3)
« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2022, 10:36:16 am »
It's too late in the day if they haven't already implemented the main upgrade I would want: aftertouch. I'll be tuning in to the live event to see what they do have on offer, though. I'm so confident they won't have put aftertouch on the MkIII Minilab controllers (even though it's been on the KeyStep since launch 7 years ago) that I will strip naked and run round my office singing 'I've Got A Lovely Bunch Of Coconuts'.
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Re: MINI LAB MK III (3)
« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2022, 04:26:07 pm »
It's too late in the day if they haven't already implemented the main upgrade I would want: aftertouch. I'll be tuning in to the live event to see what they do have on offer, though. I'm so confident they won't have put aftertouch on the MkIII Minilab controllers (even though it's been on the KeyStep since launch 7 years ago) that I will strip naked and run round my office singing 'I've Got A Lovely Bunch Of Coconuts'.

Who produces the mini keybed on MiniLab & Keystep, is it FATAR ?
If the Mini Lab & Keystep have the exact same keybed with just added aftertouch, then it would not be a problem to add it i guess. As far as i know the same mini keys on Arturia MiniLab MK2 are found also on Keystep PRO. Is this correct ?

The KeyLab Essential is definitely going to be a next year product and maybe they will add after touch too.
In terms of full size keys the Nektar GXP series has after-touch : https://nektartech.com/impact-gxp88-gxp61-gxp49-midi-controller-keyboard/

Most companies have outdone the MiniLab MKII already (because it is an older product), except for the key feel - which they say it is best on Arturia Mini key controller. Is this true ?

Everyone is moving into MPE behind closed doors, and these standard controllers will soon be left behind. Their advantage will be - relatively low price.
See for example Expressive E - Osmose controller that includes one of the best synthesizer ever made : https://www.expressivee.com/2-osmose with infinite possibilities at 1800 euro. (Eagan Matrix) the price is of course much lower than Haken Audio Slim Continuum s46L6x - 5900 euro or Haken Audio Slim Continuum s70L6x - 8000 euro.




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Re: MINI LAB MK III (3)
« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2022, 04:33:28 pm »


_Explore the unconventional

The original keystep has 32 keys = meaning 19 white keys
The keystep 37/ Pro has 37 (3 octaves) = 22 white keys

How many keys does the controller in the picture has ?

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Re: MINI LAB MK III (3)
« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2022, 01:49:10 pm »
How about the new Arturia Organic BIO-PORT MPE Midi Controller from eXistenZ 1999 : https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120907/



Just insert it into your spine, and enjoy a VR of sound inside your own mind.


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Re: MINI LAB MK III (3)
« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2022, 06:30:24 pm »
https://www.musicradar.com/news/arturia-minilab-3-eco-midi-keyboard

https://www.arturia.com/products/hybrid-synths/minilab-3/overview

Why no/zero integration with PRESONUS STUDIO ONE 6 ?

Also does the mini-C connector has on the other side a USB A for computer ?

How else can you connect it to computers with no type C ?

« Last Edit: October 18, 2022, 06:37:52 pm by umbral »

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Re: MINI LAB MK III (3)
« Reply #7 on: October 28, 2022, 10:36:09 pm »
pls stop doing hardware, hear us arturia, we need some things before more hardwareeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

 

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