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creal

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More consistency to manage personal samples
« on: January 16, 2020, 11:16:38 am »
Hello,

For the moment, you have two different ways to play your own samples in Pigments :

1) import samples/folders via the associated function. These are copied into "C:\Program Data\Arturia\Samples\Pigments\User\Classic Samples" without any warn message or something that indicates the process

2) drag and drop samples directly into sample engine's slots. Pigments save the location of the samples within the preset (it does not copy them to itw own location : C:\Program Data\Arturia\Samples\Pigments\User\Classic Samples)

But if you drag and drop folders, it adds them into "C:\ProgramData\Arturia\Samples\Pigments\User" (not "Classic Samples" by the way)

Another thing: what's the point of the "Imported" folder located into "User" folder since there already is an "Imported" folder located in "User\Classic Samples"?

Very strange, isn't it?


Broadly speaking, I think the way that personal content (samples/folders) is treated needs more consistency.

Suggestion 1: always copy folders/samples to the "User" location (and not "Classic samples", what means "classic" by the way?), be it by drag and drop or import function. That way, a message should say "Your files are now copied to the C:\...\User location, please not that Pigments browser only refreshes this User location"

Suggestion 2: allow user to define his/her own paths of samples via preferences. Pigments will show them into its browser and reproduce the tree structure. If we drag and drop samples directly into sample engines, a message should say "Do you want to add this path to Pigments?". If we say "yes", it adds the path, and if we say "no", it just adds the sample to the engine (as it currently is). And if we move the sample, Pigments should ask to locate the new path instead of copying the sample to the old path


Finally, we should have an option to save presets with or without samples, so that we could easily move our own samples or exchange presets without any trouble.

Personally, I find the product very impressive, powerful and ergonomic but it lacks a little consistency about samples management (idem for CMI, but it's another topic).

Thanks for reading,

creal.

spacef

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Re: More consistency to manage personal samples
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2020, 02:58:33 pm »
( what means "classic" by the way?),

It refers to "regular" samples, ie, not wavetables. 
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spacef

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Re: More consistency to manage personal samples
« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2020, 08:50:20 pm »
The imported folder is made for individual samples / wavetables imported individually into pigments. I have folders containing hundreds of wavetables, so I think this feature will not be used much over here (because it is so much better to import a folder and browse through all those wavetables/samples).
https://spacef-devices.com/  (Scope devices)
https://midipoti.com   (overlays and stuff)

creal

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Re: More consistency to manage personal samples
« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2020, 10:14:13 pm »
( what means "classic" by the way?),

It refers to "regular" samples, ie, not wavetables.

Thanks for the info. I guess the "Imported" folder located in "User" is the one related with wavetables. So why isn't there a folder called "Wavetables" (with an "Imported" folder inside of it) located in "User", as it is the case for "Classic" samples?

Anyway, I hope they will do something with sample management, it becomes even more important since the addition of the sample engines. And it could work with other Arturia softwares that use samples.

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Re: More consistency to manage personal samples
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2020, 04:46:08 pm »
I am pretty sure the Sampler part will be improved in the future.
https://spacef-devices.com/  (Scope devices)
https://midipoti.com   (overlays and stuff)

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Re: More consistency to manage personal samples
« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2020, 05:07:46 pm »
I hope too. I contacted the technical support that is now aware of the bugs and the bad sample management.

 

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