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SuperSterling

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GarageBand Not Recording Analog Lab V instruments properly
« on: October 21, 2022, 03:21:51 am »
Hello, I am a new user of the KeyLab 49 Essential MIDI Controller and along with that purchase came the Analog Lab V software. I am also fairly new with using DAW's but I have done my research on this and I am stuck. I am able to access the catalog of instruments through Analog V, as well as play them with my MIDI Controller in GarageBand. The instruments sound fine and there are no issues when I am doing this. The problem starts when I record a track in GarageBand using an Analog Lab V instrument with my MIDI controller. During the recording, the instrument sounds normal but when I playback the recording, it's like a whole different instrument was being played. I can't seem to figure out what's causing this and how to fix it. If anyone knows anything about this or can help me solve this I would greatly appreciate it.

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Re: GarageBand Not Recording Analog Lab V instruments properly
« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2022, 05:44:13 pm »
Hello,

Have you checked if it's actually another preset when you playback? If so, then it's probably because of a ProgramChange message send form the DAW.

I assume you have recorded midi notes.

In any case i don't think this is about Analog Lab - but about using the DAW. I don't use MAC/ Garageband.

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Re: GarageBand Not Recording Analog Lab V instruments properly
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2022, 12:18:20 am »
Thanks for pointing that out, interestingly, the track title does display "ProgramChange2" for some reason. Do you have any idea what setting I might need to adjust or how I could correct that?

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Re: GarageBand Not Recording Analog Lab V instruments properly
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2022, 12:50:36 am »
I know nothing about GarageBand.

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Re: GarageBand Not Recording Analog Lab V instruments properly
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2022, 04:32:43 am »
Got it well that's a helpful start. Can you tell me any additional information on what you mean by Program Change?

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Re: GarageBand Not Recording Analog Lab V instruments properly
« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2022, 12:35:38 pm »
ProgramChange is a standard midi message that applications can use to change presets/ programs.

If a program change messages indeed what's going on, then you should be able to see, that the preset in Analog Lab it self has been changed from the one you used when you recorded to another.

If GarageBand can send such a message, then it can be named Program Change or similar. It will be a parameter set for the individual track.

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Re: GarageBand Not Recording Analog Lab V instruments properly
« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2022, 10:28:55 pm »
Thank you again, you have lead me a little closer to figuring out what's going on. It appears that something is happening when I playback after recording in G.B. (Using KeyLab 49) WHILE the actual application I downloaded the instrument pack from is open (Analog Lab V). I was under the assumption that I should always be using the Analog Lab V application while recording with Analog Lab V instruments.

But after a few trial runs and "testing", I was able to determine that the playback issue does NOT occur, as long as I do NOT have the Analog Lab V software open while recording. I find that a little odd but maybe there is a setting or something I need to change within Analog Lab V itself? Any thoughts on that perspective?

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Re: GarageBand Not Recording Analog Lab V instruments properly
« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2022, 12:11:07 am »
I have no idea what you mean by downloading a instrument pack from Analog Lab.

In my world you should not be able to hear Analog Lab sounds without using Analog Lab as a sound unit, if you playback recorded midi notes.

Are you using Analog Lab as a plugin you open inside Garageband? It sound like you open Analog Lab as a standalone application outside Garageband. Actually it sound like you use both, if you can close one Analog Lab application and then still hear sound.
As i wrote in my first post, then i assume you record midi notes. But are you actually recording audio?

Use Analog Lab as plugin inside Garageband, and don't open Analog Lab as standalone application outside Garageband. Then i assume you can have the GUI open inside Garageband without issues, as it's strange, if you can't. But as said, i don't know how Garageband work.

Your issue is'nt about Analog Lab. It's not about a setting in Analog Lab.
I assume you can ask about working with Garageband in a Garageband forum somewhere, if no one reply here in Arturias forums. I will guess your issue mainly is about using things correct.

Perhaps this topics i found by doing a quick search for Analog Lab and Garageband in my web browser can help:
https://forum.arturia.com/index.php?topic=108410.0
https://forum.arturia.com/index.php?topic=106842.0

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Re: GarageBand Not Recording Analog Lab V instruments properly
« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2022, 12:02:36 pm »
GarageBand expert here.
GarageBand can't send Program Change data, so that can be ruled out for starters.
Reading through all this I think I've realised what you're doing, which LBH already suggested is the case: you're opening Analog Lab as a standalone, and opening GarageBand. When you record and you then play back, it's obviously not playing back Analog Lab: it's playing back what you recorded in GarageBand, which could be the default Software Instrument (Electric Piano), or even audio recorded from the microphone, depending on what type of track you told GarageBand to create.

DAWs don't work like that. You need to open Analog Lab from inside GarageBand, on a Software Instrument track. There are YouTube tutorials showing you how to access third-party software instruments (like Analog Lab) from within GarageBand. I could try to explain here (LBH's links explain it to a certain extent) but based on my presumption of your existing level of knowledge, it would be best to watch a video tutorial. Just be sure you watch a tutorial for the Mac version; the iPad version of GarageBand is a completely different beast. Tutorials for iPad GarageBand will send you down entirely the wrong path.
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