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Title: Import . minibank into V3?
Post by: thefra on May 20, 2016, 10:22:40 pm
Is ist possible to import the .minibank from mini V2 into the Mini V3.   The V3  seems to use a .minix suffix. THX
Title: Re: Import . minibank into V3?
Post by: George Ware on May 21, 2016, 02:44:33 am
I was going to ask the same thing?
Title: Re: Import . minibank into V3?
Post by: dickiedrummer on May 21, 2016, 12:22:16 pm
I tried to import a minibank , changing the suffix to minix, but no joy. I guess at the moment there are no banks aprt from the included factory bank we can download,.
Title: Re: Import . minibank into V3?
Post by: George Ware on May 21, 2016, 05:59:32 pm
I tried to import a minibank , changing the suffix to minix, but no joy. I guess at the moment there are no banks aprt from the included factory bank we can download,.

LOL Yea I tried that too! ;D
Title: Re: Import . minibank into V3?
Post by: Wookiee on May 21, 2016, 07:41:40 pm
Seems that all those years we have spent developing our own sounds have just been washed away in the breeze

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr


Title: Re: Import . minibank into V3?
Post by: dickiedrummer on May 22, 2016, 01:16:31 pm
Seems to me there are resources not in place on the site. I'm finding a few '404-page not found' links etc. The instrument sounds great, but the support seems a little threadbare. Strange that all the old midibanks no longer work, you'd have thought they would have been updated for the V3 instrument. Maybe it's early days and things were not properly prepared.

From reading a KVR thread mentioned on the ARP2600 pages, they say that a preset converter is in the offing 'in a few months'. Seems Arturia have shot themselves in the foot annoying users over this issue.
Title: Re: Import . minibank into V3?
Post by: artao on May 23, 2016, 02:50:33 am
This preset incompatibility issue is freakin ridiculous. Who at Arturia thought we users WOULDN'T want to use all of our hours and hours of work making presets in the updated instruments?
That person should be fired.
Preset compatibility should have been a FOREMOST concern in these updates. Essential. Non-negotiable.
If they can make a converter, then the updated instruments damn well SHOULD have had this functionality from the get go.

I, and many others, will be holding off on this update until seeing how things boil down.
Very not cool Arturia.
Also, for the love of monkeys!! Put back the freakin Sound Map feature. Removing that was also a real bone-headed move. The person(s) who came to that decision should also be fired. Utterly ridiculous. >:(
Title: Re: Import . minibank into V3?
Post by: Seb on May 23, 2016, 04:13:37 pm
Hi,

As was stated elsewhere, the preset import function is not available yet. The feature works, we used it to convert all the factory presets.

This will be available in a future update.

Title: Re: Import . minibank into V3?
Post by: jackn2mpu on May 24, 2016, 02:31:25 pm
This preset incompatibility issue is freakin ridiculous. Who at Arturia thought we users WOULDN'T want to use all of our hours and hours of work making presets in the updated instruments?
That person should be fired.
Preset compatibility should have been a FOREMOST concern in these updates. Essential. Non-negotiable.
If they can make a converter, then the updated instruments damn well SHOULD have had this functionality from the get go.

I, and many others, will be holding off on this update until seeing how things boil down.
Very not cool Arturia.
Also, for the love of monkeys!! Put back the freakin Sound Map feature. Removing that was also a real bone-headed move. The person(s) who came to that decision should also be fired. Utterly ridiculous. >:(
Count me in on all the above, particularly holding off on getting the 'upgrade' until the issues that have been posted here get fixed.
Title: Re: Import . minibank into V3?
Post by: jackn2mpu on May 24, 2016, 02:35:03 pm
Hi,

As was stated elsewhere, the preset import function is not available yet. The feature works, we used it to convert all the factory presets.

This will be available in a future update.
It it exists and works then why wasn't it included in the original release? Methinks Arturia should have let this souffle bake a little more and not let it collapse like it has. I'd say 90% of my synth work is done with Arturia stuff; the rest goes to Synthmaster, Massive and Absynth. Thankfully at least the older versions still work correctly.
Title: Re: Import . minibank into V3?
Post by: Koshdukai on May 24, 2016, 02:40:37 pm
Hi,

As was stated elsewhere, the preset import function is not available yet. The feature works, we used it to convert all the factory presets.

This will be available in a future update.
It it exists and works then why wasn't it included in the original release? Methinks Arturia should have let this souffle bake a little more and not let it collapse like it has. I'd say 90% of my synth work is done with Arturia stuff; the rest goes to Synthmaster, Massive and Absynth. Thankfully at least the older versions still work correctly.
Maybe they decided to spend their time on making the new synths work first and after that, finish off what's left to finish, like providing a more user-friendly front-end to their internal converter utility.

The simple fact that such thing exists, gives me some hope it'll see the light of day soon. While waiting, I'll enjoy the new versions and start doing my new patches there.
Title: Re: Import . minibank into V3?
Post by: jackn2mpu on May 24, 2016, 03:01:56 pm
Hi,

As was stated elsewhere, the preset import function is not available yet. The feature works, we used it to convert all the factory presets.

This will be available in a future update.
It it exists and works then why wasn't it included in the original release? Methinks Arturia should have let this souffle bake a little more and not let it collapse like it has. I'd say 90% of my synth work is done with Arturia stuff; the rest goes to Synthmaster, Massive and Absynth. Thankfully at least the older versions still work correctly.
Maybe they decided to spend their time on making the new synths work first and after that, finish off what's left to finish, like providing a more user-friendly front-end to their internal converter utility.

The simple fact that such thing exists, gives me some hope it'll see the light of day soon. While waiting, I'll enjoy the new versions and start doing my new patches there.
All well and fair BUT as evidenced on these forums that while the synths work a lot of them don't work correctly. Hard to get a job done when you don't know where the next formerly working feature doesn't work right.
Title: Re: Import . minibank into V3?
Post by: Koshdukai on May 24, 2016, 03:07:03 pm
All well and fair BUT as evidenced on these forums that while the synths work a lot of them don't work correctly. Hard to get a job done when you don't know where the next formerly working feature doesn't work right.
hmmm... well, they are working fine on my systems+DAWs :)
Title: Re: Import . minibank into V3?
Post by: jackn2mpu on May 24, 2016, 10:04:33 pm
All well and fair BUT as evidenced on these forums that while the synths work a lot of them don't work correctly. Hard to get a job done when you don't know where the next formerly working feature doesn't work right.
hmmm... well, they are working fine on my systems+DAWs :)
I guess you don't care then that some of the synths have features that aren't working as they should. But then again you're a beta tester and beholden to Arturia. Step out of your ivory tower and actually READ what posters are saying here.
Title: Re: Import . minibank into V3?
Post by: Koshdukai on May 24, 2016, 10:54:17 pm
All well and fair BUT as evidenced on these forums that while the synths work a lot of them don't work correctly. Hard to get a job done when you don't know where the next formerly working feature doesn't work right.
hmmm... well, they are working fine on my systems+DAWs :)
I guess you don't care then that some of the synths have features that aren't working as they should. But then again you're a beta tester and beholden to Arturia. Step out of your ivory tower and actually READ what posters are saying here.
if I didn't care, I wouldn't be here collecting info about the issues being reported and checking them on my setups and provide either help if possible or validating/confirming them  because that's all I can do.

What I've seen so far was Arturia staff being as informative and helpful as they can, either explaining misconceptions and proper to use the existing features  (like the sustain pedal on Prophet), recognizing missing features that are planned for a free update (like B3's bass pedal) or acknowledging issues with solutions (like the gfx driver updates) or taking note of true bugs being reported by helpful users (like the Channel Aftertouch issue on Chords after the 1st NoteOFF).

Regarding this thread, it was already said that VC5 presets aren't compatible with previous versions (by design) and a conversion utility is being worked on. ...what else do you want ? :)
Title: Re: Import . minibank into V3?
Post by: jackn2mpu on May 25, 2016, 01:39:58 pm
All well and fair BUT as evidenced on these forums that while the synths work a lot of them don't work correctly. Hard to get a job done when you don't know where the next formerly working feature doesn't work right.
hmmm... well, they are working fine on my systems+DAWs :)
I guess you don't care then that some of the synths have features that aren't working as they should. But then again you're a beta tester and beholden to Arturia. Step out of your ivory tower and actually READ what posters are saying here.
if I didn't care, I wouldn't be here collecting info about the issues being reported and checking them on my setups and provide either help if possible or validating/confirming them  because that's all I can do.

What I've seen so far was Arturia staff being as informative and helpful as they can, either explaining misconceptions and proper to use the existing features  (like the sustain pedal on Prophet), recognizing missing features that are planned for a free update (like B3's bass pedal) or acknowledging issues with solutions (like the gfx driver updates) or taking note of true bugs being reported by helpful users (like the Channel Aftertouch issue on Chords after the 1st NoteOFF).

Regarding this thread, it was already said that VC5 presets aren't compatible with previous versions (by design) and a conversion utility is being worked on. ...what else do you want ? :)
What do I (and others) want? We don't want some Arturia person to come on here and say things are functioning just fine on his/her system when people post here have problems with things that don't work out in the real world. What you posted that engendered my response to you does NOT acknowledge that there are genuine issues. You may well have a system that's optimized for running JUST Arturia s/w but most of us don't.
Title: Re: Import . minibank into V3?
Post by: Koshdukai on May 25, 2016, 02:48:19 pm
What do I (and others) want? We don't want some Arturia person to come on here and say things are functioning just fine on his/her system when people post here have problems with things that don't work out in the real world. What you posted that engendered my response to you does NOT acknowledge that there are genuine issues. You may well have a system that's optimized for running JUST Arturia s/w but most of us don't.

1) I'm not "an Arturia person" :) ...I like most of their products as long as they do what I need them to do, just like I like other VST vendors products that work as well and get the job done on my setups.

2) I'm using a broad range of VSTs and when one of them doesn't work properly, I report that to the vendor with as much helpful details as possible to help to get to a fix. Should be a win-win situation... unless I see no interest in fixing the issue, then I drop that vendor from my "favorites" list. This hasn't happen yet with Arturia... this is why I'm still on this forum.

3) Probably, by beta testing the products on my systems, I'm making sure they work on them... this may explain why I'm not having as many issues.

4) My systems aren't "Arturia specific", eh, far from that. Besides Reason and Ableton Live I think I use a fair amount of VSTs from about 30 vendors that may contradict me optimizing my systems just to run Arturia (that would kinda defeat the purpose of beta testing it).

5) Speaking of "issues", like I already said:
5a) some were already recognized by "Arturia persons" ;) and from what I was able to read, are being worked on which will inevitably lead to fix updates, as usual with any software as complex as 17 virtual synths, some new, some reworked.
5b) Other "issues" are subjective (like people complaining they can't read the GUI text) although in some cases I agree (and pointed that out) that the colors being used aren't contrast friendly and text size could be reworked on some zoom levels.
5c) There's also the "issues" that simply aren't and those are being clarified and explained where possible.

An example that I've seen where users are complaining they aren't able to use the ARP2600 V3, Mini V3 and Modular V3 as effects. I believe they can't but the problem is, I can use them as effects... because my main DAW is Ableton Live.

So, what's working for some, probably isn't working for others. As I said, I can only state my personal experience, like everyone else is doing here.

It wouldn't be fair to anyone if only those with issues could post here.
If it's working for me, I'll say it is. If it's not, I'll say it too (already said during beta).

All we can do now is wait for the "Arturia people" to round those issues up, see where are the specific cases where things don't work on what systems (OS/DAW) and come up with the fixes.


Getting back to the topic (because this thread was about "Import . minibank into V3" I think the OP was hopefully clarified on the "issue" where currently it isn't possible to import banks from pre-VC5 instruments but Arturia already told us that it's working on a preset converter.
Title: Re: Import . minibank into V3?
Post by: thefra on June 16, 2016, 08:50:53 pm
Yes, my OP is clarified and i hope it will not take until V6 ( 6 months? ;)) to make the Import Feature available.
Title: Re: Import . minibank into V3?
Post by: Terrym on June 23, 2016, 07:13:52 pm
Hi all , Arturia are working on a converter for vol4 to vcol5 presets they hope to release next week if all goes well.


Terrym
Title: Re: Import . minibank into V3?
Post by: jackn2mpu on June 23, 2016, 07:25:11 pm
Hi all , Arturia are working on a converter for vol4 to vcol5 presets they hope to release next week if all goes well.


Terrym
Freebie I hope? And thanks for the news.
Title: Re: Import . minibank into V3?
Post by: jeffbart on June 29, 2016, 06:31:06 am
To answer original question, yes you can. There is a preset converter available under V Collection / Resources.

https://www.arturia.com/v-collection/resources