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Hardware Sequencers => BeatStep Pro => BeatStep Pro - Technical Issues => Topic started by: darknoiseattrator on July 16, 2015, 02:26:39 pm
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I am experiencing open/held notes during extended playback and even when the sequencer is stopped with my Beatstep Pro. MY setup is as follows currently:
Roland MX-1 as my master and clock source, synced via midi in to the BS Pro. I have the BS Pro midi out connected to a Roland Aira System-1m, then the midi out from the 1m to my Microbrute. Sequence one is triggering the 1m, while sequence 2 is triggering the Microbrute.
Playback starts fine but after a few minutes of playback, both the 1m and Microbrute, while still playing the programmed sequences, starting holding a open note. Stopping the MX-1 correctly stops the BS Pro from playing the sequences, but the single note from the 1M and Microbrute continue to sound. I have to power off both synths to get it to clear.
I have updated the firmware in both units and this still happens. Just using the BS Pro as the master directly to the synths is causing the same issue, and as the MX-1 is not a sequencer, I assume the issue is something between the BS pro and the synths.
I have not tried using the CV gates yet to see if the issue is duplicated and am only connecting everything via midi at the moment.
Any suggestions would be appreciated as to what I may be overlooking, or if anyone has experienced this problem and has a fix, please let me know.
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Have you triple-clicked "stop" to send an "all notes off" message? This doesn't solve the core issue but hopefully you don't have to power down to quiet them due to a hanging note.
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I haven't tried that, although it probably won't help as I am wanting to have the MX-1 as my clock source. I'll give that a try this evening, but you're correct in that it still doesn't solved the issue.
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Same Problem here :-\
really not cool when you're deep in the tune and this happens... in about a half hour of playing this happened 3 times!!!
I have a minibrute SE on SEQ1 and a Microbrute SE on SEQ2, connected with a MIDIHUB 6way,
an like you said, after a random time, the last played note is on hold while the sequence is playing.
This happens randomly on SEQ1 and SEQ2, and i only get rid of this with powering off/on the synth, too.
Any ideas, someone? Arturia?
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This is a known issue.
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I have been in contact with Arturia and they are working on a firmware update. I was told it could be available this week.
Same Problem here :-\
really not cool when you're deep in the tune and this happens... in about a half hour of playing this happened 3 times!!!
I have a minibrute SE on SEQ1 and a Microbrute SE on SEQ2, connected with a MIDIHUB 6way,
an like you said, after a random time, the last played note is on hold while the sequence is playing.
This happens randomly on SEQ1 and SEQ2, and i only get rid of this with powering off/on the synth, too.
Any ideas, someone? Arturia?
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New Firmware updated (1.1.1.6) - same issues.
As much as i love every single buttom on my Arturia gear, especially the BSP, as much this is really annoying.
powering on and off my synths is not the way i use to perform...
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Same problem with 1.1.1.6. via midi sending notes to other synth. The beatstep is slave via midi. I tried to erase the pattern, but it happens randomly on seq 1 or 2.
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Same here. Happened last night. Powered reset "fixed it". :(
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I'm having this problem, and I've found that pressing stop a bunch really fast on the BSP fixes the problem too... Though if you have more than one instrument clocking to it, you're better off power-cycling the synth.
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Same problem here, also it's doing something to my Minitaur that is rendering some sections of the synth unresponsive. What a head melt!
I may return my BSP to the shop for a refund.
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And in case you haven't seen this on the "General Discussion" thread .....
I have this exact same issue which presents with any hardware synth connected (directly) to the BSP 5 pin MIDI output..
I have used a Voyager, a Mopho and Supernova and all demonstrate these occasional hanging / sustained notes.
I have other sequencers (eg SQ-1) that never do this.
The fault is coming from the BSP.
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Hi,
We've also observed some hazardous hanging notes when the BSP is MIDI synced. We're working on this issue.
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Hi,
We've also observed some hazardous hanging notes when the BSP is MIDI synced. We're working on this issue.
Ah, an acknowledgement from Arturia? I am very pleased to hear this. Even more pleased with a fix.
To be clear here -the BSP is using Internal sync and the output, with what I believe are missing MIDI event messages, is via the 5 pin MIDI output. That is what you mean?
"hazardous" is an interesting adjective here but hey, that's just fine for me! ;)
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please also investigate analogue sync :) it's even hazardous-er !
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I am having the same issue. 1.1.1.6 firmware. BSP is master runnning akai xr-20 (SEQ2 and drum) Thru to Microbrute(SEQ1), over MIDI-out. It has only happened with the Microbrute so far
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I said it before, i am having the same issue. All my synth and midi to cv interface are monophonic and I never use before a device that send polyaftertouch before. I ask my self if the polyaftertouch messages could be the cause of that problem. But I'm unable to disable polyaftertouch to test if it make a difference (cause I haven't a good understanding of how mcc work http://forum.arturia.com/index.php?topic=85274.msg122966#msg122966 ).
So, I'm curious to know if synths or midi interface receiving and handling polyaftertouch have held note too, or if it's only the case on synth who doesn't handel polyaftertouch. I don't like bugs, but what I don't like more than bugs, is to not understand why there are happening. So if someone can test if the polyaftertouch can be the source of this bug, it would be cool. I don't know if arturia knows already the source of this behavior or not?
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Just jammed around with minimal setup Waldorf Streichfett + BSP (new FW 1.2.0.6. installed)
resulted in the same old issue (held notes, only going away from hitting stop 3 times)
Should this problem be fixed with FW 1.2.06 anyway?!
:(
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This bug is just killing the flow... happened 3 times in 30min last night :-[
@terrym / valentin arturia:
is there any progress on this bugfix? Will this be fixed on the upcoming firmware?
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Have to kick this thread again...
also with the new Firmware 1.3.0.23 (which does a great job besides this problem) this is happening constantly, while recording and playing over the beatstep pro.
Could someone from Arturia tell us if there will be a bugfix for this?
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Have to kick this thread again...
also with the new Firmware 1.3.0.23 (which does a great job besides this problem) this is happening constantly, while recording and playing over the beatstep pro.
Could someone from Arturia tell us if there will be a bugfix for this?
does that happen regardless of the "Wait to load pattern" (activated/ deactivated in the MIDI Control Center) setting?
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it happened on FW1.2.0.6 and it is happening with the wait to load pattern function activated on FW1.3.0.23.
Why you asking?
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This bug is just killing the flow... happened 3 times in 30min last night :-[
@terrym / valentin arturia:
is there any progress on this bugfix? Will this be fixed on the upcoming firmware?
How do you have this set up so i can try. can you tell me what your doing when you get held notes.
Terrym
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thanks for reply.
Itīs happening in all constellations randomly. No Computers and no USB Connections are involved.
1.)
BSP --> Midi Out --> MIDIHub 6way --> seq1 ch1: Minibrute SE
seq2 ch2: Microbrute SE
seq3 ch10: Korg Volca Beats
ControlMode ch3: Waldorf Steichfett
- Minibrute SE also used as external keyboard via Midi in
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BSP --> Midi Out --> seq1 ch1 / seq2 ch2: Waldorf Streichfett (Omni Mode)
It seems like no specific situation is necessary for causing this. So it happens during playback randomly on seq1 or seq2, or when playing over external Keys, or even in recording mode.
I could try to figure out if it is a distinct note that causes the hold note, or is there anything else what could help sorting this out?
FYI, i own two BSPs at the moment, it happens on both devices :-(
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bummer, really been hoping that would be fixed with the new firmware, since this bug is nothing new at all and has been reported here on the forums by several users.
And this bug is exactly the reason why I didn't buy a BSP yet, plus it would be appreciated if ARTURIA would be more informative regarding plans for future updates, if there will be any more?
Here's a youtube link i've found demonstrating the bug on fw 1.2.0.6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJNV_8Xo0Os&feature=em-upload_owner
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thanks thesoulcatcher
the vid shows the bug, but in addition my instruments hold the note, even if the BSP is set to STOP.
The held note disappears not until you hit the STOP button 3 times quickly.
For all those who want to buy the BSP for use in a live situation, better wait for a bugfix....
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Hi All ,
I just spent some time looking at this problem and can confirm the bug . First i found some other issues with ghosts in my machine . These where caused by the latest update . it is recommended to clear all patterns
What you all need to do is save your projects then load the default project into all projects to help clear the memory .Then reload your projects. I also noticed my metronome keep coming on when loading a project even though its off in the mcc.
But the main issue seems to be with Seq1 on the midi out . After a few to serval minutes a midi note looses a not off and seems to crash all other notes after .
I will of course pass this on to arturia
regards
Terrym
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I will of course pass this on to arturia
regards
Terrym
thanks alot Terry.
Let us know if there are any news from Arturia regarding this issue.
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Any news on this issue?
I started a technical request on Arturia.
In the meantime, has someone a workaround for this... excluding returning the unit for refund?
rehearsal video with held notes in the very first moments:
https://youtu.be/ONQ8_pSZ6Pw
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Any news on this?
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Ive not heard a thing from arturia yet?
Terrym
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Many people have this problem with different gear, even with other Arturia products like Microbrute, Minibrute and Origin:
http://forum.arturia.com/index.php?topic=85383.0
or with synths from other brands:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzeshbZIE2c
(see vid description)
"I got some hanging moments i can tell why, so just a reset helped"
So it should not be a problem to reproduce this issue, using Midi Out only and under controlled conditions?!
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I hope this isn't beating a dead horse here, but has anything been resolved with this issue? I have only had my BSP for a couple weeks and this issue affects both synths I use. I can only get a couple minutes into playing before one of, if not both synths run into this issue.
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Hi this will be fixed in the next firmware which is in test phase as we speak
Regards
Terrym