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Title: Arturia V-Collection Update from v2 to v3?
Post by: FriFlo on July 09, 2012, 09:11:44 pm
With the  new V-Collection available for a lower price than before, but even more instruments included, I wonder if there is any update from v2 possible ... I bought it pretty recently and feel pretty annoyed by the fact, that 2 month later you suddenly get more for less. Other companies then offer a grace period free update for customers who bought recently. Here at arturia I don't even find any upgrade option ...
 ???
Title: Re: Arturia V-Collection Update from v2 to v3?
Post by: bcbtoby on July 16, 2012, 03:08:55 pm
Said the same thing and asked them about it in there tech support. Supposedly they are working on a solution.
Title: Re: Arturia V-Collection Update from v2 to v3?
Post by: HerrFrey on July 27, 2012, 05:13:52 pm
Got the "special-offer" update-newsletter today. Should I be a happy customer now?

To be honest, I think this is not a good deal. Or in more clear words: this is annoying me! I already paid round about 500.- Euro for V-Collection 2.0 and got 7 (good) VA-Synths. Ok, so far, so good. A good bundle deal at this point.
Then I paid 99.- Euro for SEM V when it was released. Which was ok for me again.

But now Arturia lowered the prizes for their synths permanently and I have to pay "only" 99.- bucks again. So my final V-Collection investement would raise up to 700.- Euro. While new customers pay only 400.- Euro for the same products and get additionally 3 Synths + Analog Factory. Are you kidding me, Arturia?!

Sorry, the actuall V3-Collection is a very nice gift for new Arturia customers, but for an "old" one, who supported you a longer time, an update like this makes no sense. Better said: an offer like this is more frustrating than satisfying.
Title: Re: Arturia V-Collection Update from v2 to v3?
Post by: bcbtoby on July 27, 2012, 07:06:27 pm
Yea not happy with this one myself bought mine 3 weeks before V3 came out for $499 so now I have to spend an extra $99 totaling $598 to get what is sold for $399 not happy.
Title: Re: Arturia V-Collection Update from v2 to v3?
Post by: bayofkings on July 27, 2012, 11:21:48 pm
Is the $99 upgrade just for folks that have V-Collection v2?  I got the e-mail offer today, but I do not have the V-Collection, although I do have 6 of the synths.  I would love to get the Spark VDM and SEM - can I get both of these (along with all the other synths, which I don't really need) for $99???

Tom
Title: Re: Arturia V-Collection Update from v2 to v3?
Post by: matthewnothin on July 28, 2012, 12:05:59 am
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BRAVO ARTURIA!

Yea not happy with this one myself bought mine 3 weeks before V3 came out for $499 so now I have to spend an extra $99 totaling $598 to get what is sold for $399 not happy.

I completely agree with you on this bcbtoby.

I'm being offered a $69USD upgrade from V2 to V3.

I've already dropped over $3000 to you guys buying The Origin, Spark, Spark VDM, etc. Why should I have pay even more when you can't even stop chomping on baguettes and guzzling wine to reply to technical support issues in a timely manner, divert a REASONABLE amount of resources towards developing existing products towards the originally promised specs (ORIGIN, ORIGIN, ORIGIN!!).

Besides dropping the Mg name from everything, what other actual improvements have you made from V2 to V3. Arturia, you sure as shit didn't earn the first $3000.00 I gave you, maybe try and earn this $69 for a change. Where is a simple list of upgraded features???

 
Title: Re: Arturia V-Collection Update from v2 to v3?
Post by: Larsaf on July 28, 2012, 12:16:43 pm
Hi everybody,

I bought  V3 10 days ago and payed €389,00 and now I get the offer for V3 for a price €150,00 less, though Arturia knows that I own it because it's registered - very strange.  ???

EDIT: €399,00 (not 389,00) - €150,00
Title: Re: Arturia V-Collection Update from v2 to v3?
Post by: FriFlo on July 28, 2012, 12:38:54 pm
Funny! I got the offer to upgrade from V2 for 299€! Arturia: You really suck. I bought v3 only a few month ago and I completely regret it! I would not pay a penny for the upgrade, even if the missing instruments we're any good. Just because I think it's  very unfair of them!
Title: Re: Arturia V-Collection Update from v2 to v3?
Post by: stuey on July 28, 2012, 01:37:03 pm
If you have a registered version of any Arturia soft synth, you get a redeem voucher in your account to upgrade to V collection version 3 for a discount €99


Stuart
Title: Re: Arturia V-Collection Update from v2 to v3?
Post by: bcbtoby on July 28, 2012, 04:06:55 pm
Don't know about anyone else but I keep getting an invalid code warning.  >:(
Title: Re: Arturia V-Collection Update from v2 to v3?
Post by: stuey on July 28, 2012, 04:33:55 pm
mine went through no issues
Title: Re: Arturia V-Collection Update from v2 to v3?
Post by: Waza on July 29, 2012, 11:07:01 am
so ok on another note i've got the 61 laboratory and was wondering is it worth buying this collection.

I mainly bought the keyboard for a controller only.

I have other hardware instruments and vst's that i mainly use. But was wondering does it sound like what they're trying to replicate.

So my question is are the vst's any good.

Ta

Waza
Title: Re: Arturia V-Collection Update from v2 to v3?
Post by: Larsaf on July 29, 2012, 11:23:53 am
Hi Waza,

the sounds a great and with V3 you have almost all the sounds that defined the 70's and early 80's.

Klaus
Title: Re: Arturia V-Collection Update from v2 to v3?
Post by: stuey on July 29, 2012, 01:05:46 pm
so ok on another note i've got the 61 laboratory and was wondering is it worth buying this collection.

So my question is are the vst's any good.

Ta

Waza

Yes, in short.

The emulation is really good. My favourite synths are the Jupiter 8, CS80, Mini Mg and now with the V collection 3, the Oberheim; which is amazing. The others are also great, but the above are my 'go to first' synths.

I think VST users get a better deal than RTAS users (I use Pro tools), just because the integration is better with VST than it is RTAS and seems more stable.

What i've recently started doing is using them standalone and recording them 'old skool' back into the DAW.

With the laboratory o it's own you can only edit so far, once you have the collection there is a preference in laboratory to link to the original sound. So therefore you can truly edit the sound, also being able to use that edited instrument sound in it's original synth format.

If you have registered products, the upgrade for €99 is a total no brainer. :)

Stuart       

Title: Re: Arturia V-Collection Update from v2 to v3?
Post by: Waza on July 29, 2012, 01:31:58 pm
no it will cost me £234 in uk currenct $299 euro's total.

So that is why i'm asking if they're any good.
Title: Re: Arturia V-Collection Update from v2 to v3?
Post by: stuey on July 29, 2012, 01:43:15 pm
no it will cost me £234 in uk currenct $299 euro's total.

So that is why i'm asking if they're any good.

I guess if you're buying new, I have a few products already so maybe it's just for certain upgrades.

As i said previous, yes they are worth having, the emulation is very good, any sound you want to recreate you can do it with one of these synths. Download the demos and take a listen only then can you judge if they're worth the cost.

Stuart
Title: Re: Arturia V-Collection Update from v2 to v3?
Post by: Waza on July 29, 2012, 07:30:57 pm
yes i'm getting $100 Euro's knocked off as i have the Laboratory 61 keyboard.

I've listened to the sounds from that and i do like them, i always keep wanting to tweak them though, so i might just pull the pin and go for them.
Title: Re: Arturia V-Collection Update from v2 to v3?
Post by: stuey on July 29, 2012, 07:47:00 pm
That is the beauty pf having the actual synth installed, used to create the laboratory presets.
There is some edit control just using the laboratory, ie cut off, resonance etc. But the have the orignal synth installed to for example add another VCO to the sound, or change the filter type. It's helpful, and with the extra carrot of £100, you can't go wrong.

I have to limit myself now to just 2 or 3 synths otherwise the sonic choice is endless

Stuart 
Title: Re: Arturia V-Collection Update from v2 to v3?
Post by: Waza on July 29, 2012, 07:53:27 pm
I know want you mean stuart.

I'm selling my DSP discovery pro cause i've not even opened it up in about a year.

Title: Re: Arturia V-Collection Update from v2 to v3?
Post by: Waza on July 29, 2012, 08:31:24 pm
stuart just bought it thanks for your help.:)

Downloading now.
Title: Re: Arturia V-Collection Update from v2 to v3?
Post by: HerrFrey on July 29, 2012, 10:49:52 pm
(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m340flujPl1r25ijk.gif)

BRAVO ARTURIA!

Yea not happy with this one myself bought mine 3 weeks before V3 came out for $499 so now I have to spend an extra $99 totaling $598 to get what is sold for $399 not happy.

I completely agree with you on this bcbtoby.

I'm being offered a $69USD upgrade from V2 to V3.

I've already dropped over $3000 to you guys buying The Origin, Spark, Spark VDM, etc. Why should I have pay even more when you can't even stop chomping on baguettes and guzzling wine to reply to technical support issues in a timely manner, divert a REASONABLE amount of resources towards developing existing products towards the originally promised specs (ORIGIN, ORIGIN, ORIGIN!!).

Besides dropping the Mg name from everything, what other actual improvements have you made from V2 to V3. Arturia, you sure as shit didn't earn the first $3000.00 I gave you, maybe try and earn this $69 for a change. Where is a simple list of upgraded features???

 


I absolute agree with you! Not even the poor and buggy preset-management of Mg Modular V or MiniMg V has been optimized. Not to mention the cpu-hunger of spark vdm which is still very high. Same with the sonic capabilities of some synths (Arp2600) which sounded good when they were released a few years ago, but seem outdated now compared to other new released va-synths.
Take a look at the plugins of U-HE, like DIVA (includes MiniMg). Their sound is state of the art: pure rich non-flat analog-feeling, which I miss at Arturia-products.

An update should be more than raise up the amount of synths for new customers and annoying the old with an unfair price and sales policy.


Title: Re: Arturia V-Collection Update from v2 to v3?
Post by: stuey on July 29, 2012, 11:30:23 pm
I absolute agree with you! Not even the poor and buggy preset-management of Mg Modular V or MiniMg V has been optimized. Not to mention the cpu-hunger of spark vdm which is still very high. Same with the sonic capabilities of some synths (Arp2600) which sounded good when they were released a few years ago, but seem outdated now compared to other new released va-synths.


I know what you mean about the pricing, they have dropped the price which means some people are going to be pissed if they bought the old version less than a month before.

But there has to be a cut off period for sales and a cut off period in which they keep these offers. It's not like Arturia are the alone in this. Apple for instance, they don't give a flying f**k about their customers, someone can walk into a shop and buy a MBP and the next day they could release a faster one at a cheaper price and Apple wouldn't take it back. It's just the luck of the draw right?

As far as the bugs.. Yes there are a few, but once you know what they are, just work around them, the preset naming is a pain at time on the Mg stuff yes, but it's a drop in the ocean to what guys have had to put up with with other software people. Avid for one.

The ARP 2600 isn't as great sounding as the TimewARP 2600, I do prefer the sound of that to the Arturia, but i don't get CPU hogging with the Spark. If you're running pro tools, it's more likely Pro Tools, PT's has never liked VI's and probably never will.