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Title: It must be the Java...
Post by: me on June 19, 2004, 03:44:45 pm
Storm 3 is a mess, on my computer at least. It is pitifully slow at screen redraws and responding to mouse-driven commands, like calling up menus. It takes a miracle to get the Storm window to come all the way back after the screensaver kicks in. Storm 3, unfortunately, is unusable on my PC.

I suspect all this has something to do with the fact that Storm uses Java as its motor. In my experience, everything I’ve seen that uses Java is problematic. The more complex the program, the more likely it is that Java will fail to keep up.

Installing Storm 3 also installs j2re1.5.0, “Java Runtime Version 1.5.0.” I wasn’t asked for permission, it just happened. Oddly enough, at the Java website, the most recent version available is 1.4.2. Is Arturia force-feeding us a beta version of Java Runtime?

As a caveat, I don’t know squat about programming, with or without Java. But I do know that Java and I have never gotten along, and that I’ve read no end of similar complaints in articles and forums, so I’m not a lone voice here. Start over. Dump the Java.
Title: It must be the Java...
Post by: rk on June 20, 2004, 11:38:26 am
I experience the same problems and  my otherwise stable computer crashes each time, I mean each time reproduceable, short time after closing storm 3.
Title: It must be the Java...
Post by: forager_xp on June 21, 2004, 02:17:45 am
It is hard to know what to do because there seems to be no support
or interest by the developers regarding our problems.

I sent a support form back to Arturia regarding no software in the mail, but no reply.

Can I ask other users....did you Uninstall storm2 before using Storm3/demo?

I remember there was a reason why previous versions required one to uninstall earlier versions before installing storm2. Is it the same with the upgrade to storm3?

I have not uninstalled storm2, mainly because I still wish to make music
not just play around with a demo version of the new software.
Title: It must be the Java...
Post by: Anonymous on June 21, 2004, 02:55:24 am
did you Uninstall storm2 before using Storm3/demo?

I did, using their provided uninstall feature. Whether it truly cleaned Storm 2 out of the Registry, no one will ever know.

Based on my other thread, I also removed the two earlier versions of Java Runtime. Nothing has helped.

I think it has nothing to do with our computers. If it was, I shouldn’t be able to run Reason or Cakewalk at all. They do more work than Storm does, but Storm acts like it’s the end of the world just by playing a drum pattern.

I am starting to seethe...
Title: It must be the Java...
Post by: me on June 21, 2004, 03:13:59 am
Based on my other thread

Oops, I’m in that thread. And by the way, I‘m not “Guest,” I’m just “me.”

This is happening because I’m officially seething...
Title: It must be the Java...
Post by: forager_xp on June 21, 2004, 04:29:57 am
I noticed in the root dir of the storm3 directory a bunch of error log files.

hs_err_pid236.log  ....  etc.

These seem to be entirely Java related problems!
The HotSpot Virtual Machine has it's issues with just about everything!

I think this is why God invented the dvd player...
Title: It must be the Java...
Post by: me on June 21, 2004, 05:01:39 am
I think this is why God invented the dvd player...

And all this time I thought it was Al Gore...

I don’t have any error log files, guess that means everything’s okay... not.[/i]
Title: It must be the Java...
Post by: moesenschlecker on June 23, 2004, 01:01:13 pm
user must help user; hmm

ARTURIA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: It must be the Java...
Post by: Anonymous on June 26, 2004, 02:51:36 am
user must help user

I would if I could, but as the saying goes...

You can’t put earrings on a pig!

Unless Arturia can recognize and fix this problem, I’ll let time heal the wound of throwing sixty bucks into the proverbial toilet.

What now, Reason? No digital recorder. Tracktion? No patterns. What else?