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Title: Clicking sound.
Post by: bace on September 09, 2010, 06:52:11 pm
There seems to be some bugs in the sound generator. Here are a very short example.
Happens on many patches. A noisy click sound is heard when switching note-key.
(http://bacesw.110mb.com/klick.jpg) Cubase 5.5.1 on osx 10.6.4
http://bacesw.110mb.com/JP8BazzOfTheTimes.wav (http://bacesw.110mb.com/JP8BazzOfTheTimes.wav) in 32-bit float format.

view in cubase (http://bacesw.110mb.com/klick.jpg view in cubase)

This is version 2.0.0.0

Title: Re: Clicking sound.
Post by: tommym on September 16, 2010, 06:04:41 pm
I'm probably wrong about this, but are you sure that your Release values in the ADSR for both Filter and Amplifier are not too low? This could cause such a sonic artifact to occur.
Title: Re: Clicking sound.
Post by: bace on September 18, 2010, 09:14:37 am
It's a presets. (The same goes for many of the presets) And yes you can do a click if you would like. But in this case it's not, and it is not consequent.  And I very confused why people dont complain about t it. Is it only the mac version that have this problem?
Title: Re: Clicking sound.
Post by: tommym on September 20, 2010, 04:51:20 am
I am sorry. My Mac v.2 software does not do clicks. Sometimes I program a patch with too much level, due to Resonance, for example. That will distort. But you say it is the Presets - which Presets, exactly? thanks! :)
Title: Re: Clicking sound.
Post by: bace on September 20, 2010, 10:16:48 pm
The wav file is named after the preset patch.
Title: Re: Clicking sound.
Post by: tommym on September 22, 2010, 07:04:03 pm
I tried to get the wav sound (not in cubase format, just the .wav) and it said 'no longer available'
Title: Re: Clicking sound.
Post by: bace on September 23, 2010, 06:32:37 pm
Try to do a cut&past of the URL.
Title: Re: Clicking sound.
Post by: tommym on October 05, 2010, 06:10:32 am
Thanks. I just did a cut and paste of the URL, and listened to the file.
It's strange. It didn't sound 'wrong' to me. I think that's just a very fast attack time on one or both of the ADSR Envelopes. (or possibly a very fast decay.)
Title: Re: Clicking sound.
Post by: Greedo on October 14, 2010, 06:23:14 pm
I allso have problem with "clicking". Its not on every note, but occures randomly when playing chords etc. Its at the beginning of a note, and its not a CPU spike. But, its not only with JP8, i allso have the problem with the miniMg. Strange thing is that it happens allso with long attacks.
Title: Re: Clicking sound.
Post by: tommym on October 16, 2010, 02:20:46 pm
Sounds like running out of voices maybe, and the Instrument "stealing" a voice that may be already sounding? Unless it happens on a first note after a silent period too.
Title: Re: Clicking sound.
Post by: iamzardoz on November 08, 2010, 03:30:50 pm
I too have this clicking sound - could it be my onboard sound card?  Using Windows 7 64Bit?
Is there a recommended sound card?
Title: Re: Clicking sound.
Post by: bace on November 22, 2010, 10:55:10 pm
It's for sure not your soundcard. It's a bug. Seems to in prophet v2 too. I was about
to checkout if the problem was on my local shop too, but they have removed the jupiter from
the installation on order from the distributor. The other from the collection was there.
Title: Re: Clicking sound.
Post by: iamzardoz on December 16, 2010, 03:13:49 pm
So you think there is not a fix for this click ?
Cheers
Title: Re: Clicking sound.
Post by: rlaine on February 07, 2011, 12:49:14 pm
I was just demoing Jupiter 8v and noticed the same clicking on most presets. It's not on first note/chord, but appears when playing a sequence. I think it's some strange ADSR thing, because I got rid of the click on some presets by tweaking VCF ADSR. It's not as simple as attack or release being too quick tho, it's a combination of many parameters.

I'm not sure if it's supposed to be this way, but the synth engine seems quite unpredictable when it comes to playing consecutive notes in other ways too.

This behaviour is propably a decision maker for me, it's a big turn off..
Title: Re: Clicking sound.
Post by: rlaine on February 07, 2011, 01:31:46 pm
After a bit more tweaking I'm leaning more towards the sound programming and that the filter envelope can't handle quick attack very well..
Title: Re: Clicking sound.
Post by: jonmoore on February 20, 2011, 05:32:41 pm
I can also confirm this clicking behaviour, especially on many of the bass patches bit it can be resolved be shifting the attack on the filter envelope to somewhere between 1 and 3ms. In most cases this doesn't affect the snappiness of the filter behaviour but is hardly ideal.

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Title: Re: Clicking sound.
Post by: bace on July 10, 2011, 07:45:03 pm
Sadly this bug was not corrected with the 2.0.2 update. And bug corrections are very rare from arturia.