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V Collection - Legacy versions => Modular V => Modular V Users Community => Topic started by: Mr. Anxiety on February 20, 2006, 11:01:28 pm
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When using just the 2600 & CS-80 on my P3 1.8 Ghz amchine,
it pushes the CPU to around 65%, and the output of my Forte Vst Host starts distorting, even with the levels fairly low.
Anyway to lower the CPU load using these plug-ins. I'm not even in Multi mode.
Thanks,
JVT
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Maybe it's an obvious one, but any soft clipping that's engaged will suck down more CPU.
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Thanks for your reply. I'm not clear where Soft Clipping would be, on the sound card, or something in the plug-in itself?
Mr. A.
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I dunno if you're still around, but it's located in two places. The white button adjacent the mixer through which you're running your tone, and another one, also in the form of a white button, on each of the VCA panels.
Good luck!
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I'm still around. Thanks for the tip. I'll try it out upon my return.
Mr. A.
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When using just the 2600 & CS-80 on my P3 1.8 Ghz amchine, it pushes the CPU to around 65%,
The CPU usage of Arturia's plugins has always been WAY TOO HIGH! I cannot use the Prophet on my dual 4400/2gb ram AMD machine because only ONE instance of it uses about 40% of the CPU. Add the Arp 2600 in and I'm finished. On a normal session I can have BFD, Stylus RMX, Trilogy, Atmosphere, Kontakt, EZ Drummer, FM7, B4, etc. all running without sending Nuendo's CPU meter over 50%. The only two Arturia instruments that DON'T take up too much CPU is the Mini Mg V and the Analog Factory. Arturia really needs to address this issue because some of use DO NOT print our audio unless necessary. Arturia are more concerned with dumping some of their pro users like myself for bullshit reasons rather than addressing the long-standing issues that need to be fixed.
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Although my approach is of a different tone than Ted's, I do agree that it is extremely difficult to use the Arturia plugs I really like, i.e. 2600 & CS-80 for my film projects, since I can never predict whether they will not overload my CPU on my very powerful PC computer. I, like Ted, can run a bucketload of other companie's plug ins to create my scores, but as soon as I try to do a bass sequence with a pad from the CS-80, with not much else going, I'm out of power. Not Good.
Francois, please help us out. We like your plugs, let us use them!!!!
JVT
Los Angeles
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We like your plugs...
...but we despise you and your coworkers - except for Vincent T!
Arturia - excellent VSTi's made by people with no morals, backbone, or integrity.
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...it is extremely difficult to use the Arturia plugs I really like, i.e. 2600 & CS-80 for my film projects
Try Analog Factory. It wasn't until I got that instrument that I was able to successfully integrate the CS80 (my favorite) into my recordings without having to freeze tracks.
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I'll say it again, it should be obvious that they're not going to respond to verbal attacks. It's also obvious that a $200 piece of software is not going to be a more stable emulation of a notoriously unstable multi-thousand dollar piece of equipment.
So unless you're prepared to threaten them with big wads of cash and a commission, you're wasting your dexterity going on and on about how unethical they are. It's just the way it is for now.
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I'll say it again, it should be obvious that they're not going to respond to verbal attacks
They didn't respond to private emails for six months that were not agitated at all. They simply decided to not respond to anything I wrote to them, and this was BEFORE I got pissed off. I really think they don't like Americans very much. And other groups...
It's also obvious that a $200 piece of software is not going to be a more stable emulation of a notoriously unstable multi-thousand dollar piece of equipment
Oh no, mon cher, you are mistaken. Arturia's VSTi's are EXTREMELY stable, they just use up an inordinate amount of CPU compared to other VSTi's out there. It's like owning a French Citron automobile but it uses twice as much gas as a Mercedes or BMW. And the car dealer is a sleeze who doesn't even want to deal with your kind in the first place.
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Then make you own plugin, buddy.
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Then make you own plugin, buddy.
If I did, I would embrace and welcome any users who work at a pro level in many differing types of music. Not make up lies about them and antagonize them.
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Well, they don't.
Does going around this forum singing their curses make you happy? You seem more interested in squandering bandwidth thinking of new ways to vilify these people. Doesn't that get tiresome? I hated Phil Collins, but I managed to find better things to do on the internet than go to his fansites and badmouth him gratuitously.
The plain fact is, your name on these boards may serve as an overture to yet another diatribe on how Arturia is made up of the scum of humanity, and why you refuse to enjoy their products, but it doesn't explain why you refuse to simply take your business elsewhere.
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...why you refuse to enjoy their products, but it doesn't explain why you refuse to simply take your business elsewhere.
You really don't understand, do you?
I love and use ALL of their products. I just wanted to let whoever was interested know what lowlifes the people behind the company are. Henry Ford was an anti-Semitic dickhead, but he made great cars. Nixon was a paranoid and depressed man but (IMHO) a great president. Emagic/Logic unceremoniously dumped 100,000 Logic Windows users, but nobody can dispute that Logic is a brilliant and amazing software.
It "be's that way" sometimes :-)
BTW, I love Phil Collins' music and recordings.
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:D :D :D
Now we Understand your Arturia View.....
Enjoy the Products.....
Shut the Defamation of Arturia up...
You are not taking the Company down, or over.......
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You really don't understand, do you?
No, I don't have the time. Between a graphics job I said I'd finish and a need to look as closely as I can at the music I'm making and how some of my inspirations work, I don't have time to grumble about anything but the dump-like environment of my apartment (for which only I am solely responsible).
Now we Understand your Arturia View.....
Enjoy the Products.....
Shut the Defamation of Arturia up...
You are not taking the Company down, or over.......
Exactly. Ted, you've not responded to this thread to find solutions or look for the characteristically weird ways to make this admittedly imposing software work best, you're here looking for a soapbox---if not a fight. Take your armchair revolution elsewhere and stick to the music. We know what the problems are, and you're not making a single thing better doing what you've been doing here. You're only making people not want to take seriously anything you have to say, or eventually even contribute.
This isn't going to help you, as we know who you are (or who your username says you are) and those of us that have become tired of dreading your visits don't exist solely on this board.
Please lighten up.
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The "Ford" Foundation and the Carnegie Institute has done much more damage with Pro Zionist / pro Central Banking stance than more of us can admit
Wow! Are you an Arturia employee?
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See? You're not even here to talk about instruments! What good is any of this doing? Can you answer me that?
Mr. Anxiety, sorry for being party to this thread going way off topic. I wanted to confront this guy where other people could see it, and I'm sorry that it has to involve you and others.
Is this what all music forums are like?
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Is this what all music forums are like?
Unfortunately, yes, quite often.
That partly explains why so few professional musicians use them. They're often able to stay out of things and get their information elsewhere, and many of them would rather avoid the day-to-day problem discussions that I and some others of us here get involved in. (Some of them have enough fights with their fellow band-members without going on-line for more. :D)
It's a problem. I've wondered myself whether to get involved in things on this site, but I've tried to sort through one or two things I'd have ignored if they'd taken place elsewhere, because I've felt the battles were worth it here.
I think Ted Perlman may possibly have some genuine reasons for his grievances, but I really don't know. I think you're right to say his personal grievances aren't really relevant to this site, and he could say it once, maybe, but then let it drop.
Any of us may have genuine grievances. I do, in fact, with one of the world's largest record companies. But I'm not about to say which one, or why, and I don't visit company related forums and talk about it there, because it's neither relevant nor helpful to other people.
Ted, if you do have a genuine grievance then I can sympathise from my own experiences, and I'm sure many of us could. But I think you've got the message across as much as you can, and your comments are clearly becoming counter-productive, which tends to harm you rather than Arturia.
Speaking more generally, people can be a disappointment. I'm always especially pleased when a musician I admire turns out to be a nice person as well, or if an instrument-maker - individual or company - turns out to be decent and responsive. But I think it's a bonus when that happens. People are often problematic, and personal encounters are always a risk because of that. A long-time musician once said to me that he'd realised he'd wasted far too much time and energy nursing hurts and grievances instead of just getting on with making music. I think that's an experience all of us can learn from.
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The "Fjord" Foundation and the Carnegie Institute has done much more damage with Central Banking than more of us can admit
Wow! Are you a Cold Ham Sandwich?
Huh???
I am not a Ham Sandwich....Bet that sounds tastey, doesnt it...
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Look everybody---a sane person!
I think you've saved me some time, buddy. I've been a part of a few different 3D communities for years (being multicapable precedes bathing on occasion) and they're almost always a great place to get advice on stuff. The forums are well-moderated and the only people responsible for supporting the community were the artists themselves.
Strange how the territory seems to change in music. I remember reading the Prophet 5 "reviews" (the original) on Sonicstate.com. There must have been over 30. I found like two useful. The rest were either old farts berating modern synths, music, etc, or kids posing as old farts doing the same thing, or kids who'd never owned one drooling on for well over 500 characters, sans punctuation of any kind. It's like people are afraid (and I'm guilty of this too) that if one pull one's head out of one's ass, their abilities will dissolve and everybody else will steal their ideas.
True to a point.... Fuck it. I've still got to teach myself Cubase SE. I've been using Buzz for years (still do, to be honest). Not a whole lot of people have heard my music and I want it to stay that way unless they see fit to show it to other people. That way, what I put out is top notch, my "critics" are people whose opinions I trust and listen to my music for reason other than self-definition or ridicule-target-finding, and I don't get crazy thinking that the fact that people like or dislike my music somehow reflects on me as a person.
I've got all kinds of half-baked notions about the music industry that I'm not about to let go of yet, so I'll keep adding things to what I do until either I get comfortable going public with it, or someone convinces me it's a good idea. But regardless of all of this, if a piece of unreliable software is capable of entirely halting my efforts, it only means that I'm overinvested and need to pull back to see what else I can do.
I've done and continue to do everything I possibly can to retain the sole responsibility for getting any satisfaction out of what I do in music.
So Ted, quit doing the same thing over and over, expecting different results despite evidence that it's not gonna happen soon, and look at buying another soft synth. For god's sake, man.