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Harware Legacy versions => Origin => General Discussion on Origin => Topic started by: kokocalamar on October 12, 2010, 08:13:21 pm
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I just stumbled across this:
http://www.originsynthesizer.com/ (http://www.originsynthesizer.com/)
Exciting!
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Interesting, so will the editor work on Vista and will there be a VST?
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I guess it will be the FW 1.3 Update.
And the official release of the Origin Keyboard.
I hope there will be some more modules...
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Yes, most probably the 1.3 OS. Which, if true, is great news. I am really looking forward to the Jupiter-8 template. :)
As I said in a previous post, I believe that it is in Arturias interest to show a 200% commitment to the Origin, as the keyboard version is to be released soon. And what better way to drive up sales than to throw updates and modules and templates on us!! :)
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I read here:
http://www.keyboardmag.com/article/arturia-origin-synth/may-09/96559
about USB audio, is this going to be a reality at all, eg is it even possible with the unit?
Digital output is great, and balanced outputs, but audio via a direct computer interface would make this unit I believe rather rare, considering the multi-timbrality of the unit.
P.S. What other synth architectures are in the works can anyone say?
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about USB audio, is this going to be a reality at all, eg is it even possible with the unit?
It was definately promised several times by Arturia and different distribution partners.
But then there was silence for a long time and firmware updates came later as announced. I asked Arturia about it and the official statement was, that VST-Integration (USB-Audio) is a feature which will be developed someday, but that there are things with higher priority on their to do list.
I was tempered initially, because it sounds as that feature is not to see in the near future. But honestly I would like to see more modules now and the VST-integration later. I really hope that they will remind themselfes again and again to keep all the promises.
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Hi Superwaldi
I agree, there must be priorities, and having experience with things such as the Roland SonicCell, my enthusiasm has been curtailed somewhat but at least there is a standalone editor and an independent (classic) MIDI interface.
What I am wanting to know I guess is, will the USB interface allow audio streaming from the device to the computer and record, for example 1 stereo channel.
If that were possible that would likely give other similar devices a real run for their money, since this unit has almost all the bases covered it would seem.
True what you say though about more modules, I was immediately looking for the Jupiter myself from listening to the demo I'd really like that in "hardware".
Many regards
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Hi metcalfe,
audio streaming via USB is not possible now.
With modules I don't mean the ready to use synthesizer templates, but the modules to build your own synthesizer structures in the origin.
However both options offer a lot of fun.
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Hello all,
The 1.3 firmware will enter the final beta test very soon (likely next week). The golden master should be ready before the end of november.
As it has already been told this version will include 2 new modules (Compressor FX + S&H), the Jupiter8 template, new play mode parameters (POLY_UNISON which is the emulation of the J8 UNISON mode, and a UNISON parameter for MONO programs), automation of Sequencer switches (loop mode and patterns), and numerous UI enhancements.
No software editor this time. Maybe for the next next update.
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Phil, you're breaking my heart! I thought 1.3 would be revealed this friday.. :'(
Just kidding, I am in fact happy that you're pushing for a November release, can't wait!
Thanks.
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This Friday the vst-integration will certainly be released! :-X
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No, only the AU ;)
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great great !!!
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As I understand it "VST" integration is not a simple thing, particularly with Steinberg applications, except of course if VST3 is used as in their own hardware synth so I'd not be expecting it (vst editor) to surface anytime soon and would much prefer a standalone program, since besides anything else the fact there is USB & MIDI ports means for example a sequencer can play midi via the classic interface and the application takes the USB.
I think I made that last point earlier, as that is my experience with Roland (non synth) hardware.
Anyway good luck to Arturia for making the leap from software to a hardware system, should be very promising in terms of sounds, strictly controlled module development should bring a greater quality control...
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Lol another count down? ???
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(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk280/AMNick2008/facepalm.jpg)
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What is this mysterios site www.originsynthesizer.com? Who can have access to it? I obviously cannot...
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I wonder, if there will be another countdown after the second countdown went to zero.
Does anybody remember Desmond in Lost? :D
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I remember and this mysticity with Origin and its updates reminds me more and more Lost... (personally I'm waiting my Origin module and while waiting I've been curious to see what's happening here).
Did something came out when the countdown went to 0? Did somebody get some update or what...?
???
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The countdown came to 0 and some guests can log in to a new Origin page, I guess. For the not chosen ones a new countdown started.
However, my Origin was not affected and I still love it's sound and user interface.
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That business model to roll out new stuff at the end of the week doesn't work for Arturia. Every time something goes wrong people have the whole weekend to bitch about.
Since we got already the news that there are no updates for the Origin, it is somehow questionable what that whole countdown was for. I cannot imagine that it is on purpose to create a site that is blocked.
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So, the countdown is over. And... surprise, surprise, it's the Origin Keyboard :D
It's good to see that it's ready!
But there's no mention of the Origin module there. I wonder why. I'd think that the module still makes sense for many potential buyers(?)
DJ
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They must have fixed the eratic data wheel as in the Origin keyboard video the guy is clearly using it a way not possible on my Origin, namely it works as it should !.
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"Firmavare details" -page tells us:
Template Pages:
There are Template pages for all of our well known softsynths (MiniMg, CS-80, ARP 2600, Jupiter-8) so you can have quick access to classic vintage sounds.
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What does this mean? Do they have those templates or what? For me this company's policy is very misleading cause they have sold this Origin so long with a promise of those modules (two years or something?)
And then there's this word "ALL" (of our well known softsynths). All means to me that they are promising also Mg Modular V for example.
Personally I'm very interested in Origin and vey close to purchase it but there're some strangeness in this company's policy. IMO they should give customers some kind idea of the time when they release those template instruments. And certainly they shouldn't give misleading information that they allready have ALL of them if in real world those doesn't exists yet.
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...And then there's this word "ALL" (of our well known softsynths)...
I assume that the explicit list given in the text (MiniMg, CS-80, ARP 2600, Jupiter-8) is the templates we will eventually get for the Origin.
Currently there's only the MiniMg template, and the current specifications for both the module (http://www.arturia.com/evolution/en/products/origin/specs21.html) and the keyboard (http://www.arturia.com/evolution/en/products/origin-keyboard/specs.html) clearly says this. However it looks like the keyboard version comes with the new firmware which has the Jupiter 8 template. This same firmware is just about to be released for the module too.
The new site does indeed list all four (http://www.originsynthesizer.com/features) templates without any caveat like in the specs linked to above, but I suspect this is a mistake that will be tidied up.
For the upcoming updates, have a look at the timeline (http://www.arturia.com/evolution/en/products/origin/details/milestones.html). They have also mentioned both the Arp 2600 and the Prophet VS as possible future templates - I'm not sure which one(s) we'll get.
Note that although Arturia may not be on the original schedule with the templates and the VST integration, they do make regular updates with bug fixes and added 'bonus' features and modules.
DJ
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Thanks for this information! Origin just came much more interesting with this timetable...
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"Template Pages:
There are Template pages for all of our well known softsynths"
This sentence was copy-pasted from our old product catalog. It was written at a time when we were still thinking that we would be able to deliver all templates corresponding to our software synths (including Mg Modular V, Prophet V, etc!). But in the last year we realized that making these templates is a lot harder than we though. More development time than planned, not enough memory to contain all the graphical interfaces, etc.
So this sentence on the web-site is an error that should be corrected soon. For the moment, in the 1.2 firmware, there is only the MiniMg template. The 1.3 which will be released soon (and is currently under beta-test) will include the Jupiter-8 template. Movies on the website have been done with a Beta 1.3 version, that is why you can see the Jupiter-8 in the videos.
The only other templates that should be released one day are the CS-80 and the ARP-2600.
Niccolo
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does this mean that there will not be Prophet V/Prophet VS modules and templates in future firmware upgrades for the Origin? that eventual feature was a HUGE reason that i purchased my Origin. i love the MiniMg template and am excited about the Jupiter 8 template, but a Prophet template was something i was really counting on. can you clarify more about this?
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does this mean that there will not be Prophet V/Prophet VS modules and templates in future firmware upgrades for the Origin? that eventual feature was a HUGE reason that i purchased my Origin. i love the MiniMg template and am excited about the Jupiter 8 template, but a Prophet template was something i was really counting on. can you clarify more about this?
me too :-\
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Well, it just proves something that I've learned (the hard way!) over the years:
Never ever buy something for what you or the manufacturer hope it will do in the future.
Only buy it for what it can do today. ;)