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Title: Global Transpose?
Post by: al80 on April 16, 2020, 05:08:29 pm
hello.i really like the keystep pro so far but i cant find anywhere how to global transpose all 4 sequences at the same time or transpose them via external keyboard.is this feature available?i checked midi control center but did not find anything related.this was a common function at the original keystep and BSP as well..i hope it is just me.thanks
Title: Re: GLOBAL TRANSPOSE?
Post by: Terrym on April 18, 2020, 03:25:18 pm
Hi,
As one of the testers i asked for this feature a while ago and arturia do plan to add this feature but it was not added before release. maybe
Seb can answer this too.

There are many feature still to be added still.

regards
Title: Re: GLOBAL TRANSPOSE?
Post by: al80 on April 19, 2020, 10:41:00 am
thanks for the reply. i really dont get why they did not include this feature at the new keystep pro.i have a setup where i transpose my beatstep and my original keystep via  external keyboard at the same time and i thought that the new keystep would work that way too...i think this is a must feature.maybe someone from arturia can share his thoughts with us about this matter.
Title: Re: GLOBAL TRANSPOSE?
Post by: al80 on April 19, 2020, 10:53:56 am
it is funny because arturia "in a way" states that this is a KSP feature if anybody watch the presentation video .
the guy at the video is triggering a global transpose at 1:03

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXTBUaazrV4&feature=emb_title
Title: Re: GLOBAL TRANSPOSE?
Post by: CH7 on April 20, 2020, 03:09:07 pm
Once again Arturia does not believe in a transpose function as most people would imagine it to work.

Like the keystep, the Pro allows sequences and arpeggios to be transposed whilst they are playing, but has no function to transpose the keyboard, except in octaves. With the word 'transposed' prominently stencilled on their products, this leads to a false impression of what that feature does.

This is ironic given the kinds of people who will be attracted to these mini-keyboards. The true Pros will go to full size keyboards. Its the beginners who'll set their sights on these controllers.
Title: Re: GLOBAL TRANSPOSE?
Post by: al80 on April 20, 2020, 06:24:25 pm
hi.i know that the ksp will transpose sequences  like the original but it wont traspose all the tracks-sequences at the same time .you need to do that on each track seperately.beatstep also is working very good with the transpose and will transpose all tracks at the same time.my initial thought about ksp was that it is something between original keystep and beatstep pro.maybe that is not the case because ksp is missing  features and functions  from both.
Title: Re: GLOBAL TRANSPOSE?
Post by: collincrowe on April 22, 2020, 08:23:19 pm
Really need this feature or I’m gonna return mine
Title: Re: GLOBAL TRANSPOSE?
Post by: al80 on April 22, 2020, 08:27:49 pm
Really need this feature or I’m gonna return mine
yes i was thinking the same....lets hope for an update
Title: Re: GLOBAL TRANSPOSE?
Post by: Edouard_Arturia on April 23, 2020, 09:21:13 am
Hello.

We are currently working on this feature and hope to be able to implement it in an update very soon.

Best regards

Edouard
Title: Re: GLOBAL TRANSPOSE?
Post by: al80 on April 23, 2020, 11:59:52 am
Hello.

We are currently working on this feature and hope to be able to implement it in an update very soon.

Best regards

Edouard
thanks ,that is good to know.i hope you add the option "transpose from external keyboard"  at the midi control center as well.like the beatstep
Title: Re: GLOBAL TRANSPOSE?
Post by: fvwelsh on April 27, 2020, 11:13:47 am
Beatstep Pro has "transpose link" so I assumed it would be on the KSP.   I have one on preorder with Sweetwater, but I'm cancelling it until the feature is implemented.  I'll just stay with my Beatstep Pro for now.  Major bummer.  Glad I found out before it arrived.  Any idea how long until this feature is added? 
Title: Re: GLOBAL TRANSPOSE?
Post by: collincrowe on May 02, 2020, 12:01:09 pm
+1 is there an eta on firmware?
Title: Re: GLOBAL TRANSPOSE?
Post by: ArcticDisco on May 03, 2020, 03:44:57 am
How do I transpose a held arpeggio?
Title: Re: GLOBAL TRANSPOSE?
Post by: al80 on May 03, 2020, 12:22:55 pm
How do I transpose a held arpeggio?
just discovered that you cant transpose arp on keystep pro.....
you can transpose sequences if you hold the trans button and hold a key on the ksp but it does not working on arp.another missing feature from the old keystep
Title: Re: GLOBAL TRANSPOSE?
Post by: Edouard_Arturia on May 18, 2020, 11:02:03 am
Hey.

We are going to release an update this week or next week, but mainly to bring bug fixes. (We wish to get rid of most of the annoying bugs before adding new features)
This feature won't be available this week but most likely in the next update or the forthcoming one.

Kind regards

Edouard
Title: Re: GLOBAL TRANSPOSE?
Post by: al80 on May 18, 2020, 11:40:18 am
Hey.

We are going to release an update this week or next week, but mainly to bring bug fixes. (We wish to get rid of most of the annoying bugs before adding new features)
This feature won't be available this week but most likely in the next update or the forthcoming one.

Kind regards

Edouard

hi. can you move this topic to feature requests?
Title: Re: GLOBAL TRANSPOSE?
Post by: al80 on May 18, 2020, 11:41:40 am
hi.can you move this topic to feature requests?
Hey.

We are going to release an update this week or next week, but mainly to bring bug fixes. (We wish to get rid of most of the annoying bugs before adding new features)
This feature won't be available this week but most likely in the next update or the forthcoming one.

Kind regards

Edouard
Title: Re: GLOBAL TRANSPOSE?
Post by: bobbysteels on June 04, 2020, 10:06:37 pm
How do I transpose a held arpeggio?
just discovered that you cant transpose arp on keystep pro.....
you can transpose sequences if you hold the trans button and hold a key on the ksp but it does not working on arp.another missing feature from the old keystep


I'm confused.  The manual reads "The Transpose function lets you shift up or shift down the pitch of running sequences/patterns and arpeggios. To transpose, hold down the Trans button and play a note on the
keyboard. Notes below middle C will cause a downward transposition; notes above middle
C will cause an upward transposition."

Earlier today I could have sworn I transposed an arp.  Right now, using the information above, I can't transpose an arp...
Title: Re: GLOBAL TRANSPOSE?
Post by: collincrowe on June 05, 2020, 10:32:54 pm
Where’s that firmware update??
Title: Re: GLOBAL TRANSPOSE?
Post by: marcel-x on June 13, 2020, 07:55:32 pm
I was hoping the update 1.2.6 would have enabled the option to transpose multiple tracks at once.

Since the update, the individual tracks can be selected when pressing the transpose button. Though only the active track will transpose.

Will the transpose function be fixed in next update?
Title: Re: GLOBAL TRANSPOSE?
Post by: synthcreep on June 13, 2020, 08:19:30 pm
+1
Title: Re: GLOBAL TRANSPOSE?
Post by: BaloranFr on June 21, 2020, 12:15:54 am
+1 please, it's hard to "works" without ;)
Title: Re: GLOBAL TRANSPOSE?
Post by: Atarikid on September 07, 2020, 08:28:50 pm
I thought arturia allready did it.... oO.. i bought a unit a few daze ago. i will send it back tomorrow. no way to handle 4 tracks without global transpose.
Title: Re: GLOBAL TRANSPOSE?
Post by: al80 on September 12, 2020, 03:42:46 pm
Hey.

We are going to release an update this week or next week, but mainly to bring bug fixes. (We wish to get rid of most of the annoying bugs before adding new features)
This feature won't be available this week but most likely in the next update or the forthcoming one.

Kind regards

Edouard

still no global transpose after 2  updates.is there any chance to implement this  at the feature?
Title: Re: GLOBAL TRANSPOSE?
Post by: diesle55 on September 13, 2020, 03:42:33 am
It's absurd that a 4 channel sequencer was released in now times that can't do global transpose. This oversight should have been embarrassing enough to cause it to be corrected by now. Ridiculous.
Title: Re: Global Transpose?
Post by: haoleman on March 04, 2022, 05:37:56 pm
I realize this thread is over 2 years old. But I just purchased a Keystep Pro and wanted to use it as a midi controller in  real-time and be able to transpose midi out up or down via transpose, but it seems like this "midi controler" doesn't allow you to do this on anything but sequences and arps ? 
I've been buying 20-30 midi keyboards/controllers since my first Emu-Emax in the 80's I can't think of any one of them that didn't allow midi transpose.  Let alone global transpose.
Am I missing something or has Global transpose and Midi Transpose haven't been fixed with firmware yet. I've had this unit for a week and seems a shame to have to sell it already.  ???

Any help at all would be greatly appreciated


Haoleman
Title: Re: Global Transpose?
Post by: al80 on March 16, 2022, 12:33:03 pm

it will do global transpose after the latest update but you need to do that from the ksp itself.it wont transpose from another external  midi source.so i guess it is half fixed and thats the reason my ksp is out of my setup at the current moment ...shame....

I realize this thread is over 2 years old. But I just purchased a Keystep Pro and wanted to use it as a midi controller in  real-time and be able to transpose midi out up or down via transpose, but it seems like this "midi controler" doesn't allow you to do this on anything but sequences and arps ? 
I've been buying 20-30 midi keyboards/controllers since my first Emu-Emax in the 80's I can't think of any one of them that didn't allow midi transpose.  Let alone global transpose.
Am I missing something or has Global transpose and Midi Transpose haven't been fixed with firmware yet. I've had this unit for a week and seems a shame to have to sell it already.  ???

Any help at all would be greatly appreciated


Haoleman
Title: Re: Global Transpose?
Post by: AndreasFranke on June 16, 2022, 07:52:40 am

it will do global transpose after the latest update but you need to do that from the ksp itself.it wont transpose from another external  midi source.so i guess it is half fixed and thats the reason my ksp is out of my setup at the current moment ...shame....

I realize this thread is over 2 years old. But I just purchased a Keystep Pro and wanted to use it as a midi controller in  real-time and be able to transpose midi out up or down via transpose, but it seems like this "midi controler" doesn't allow you to do this on anything but sequences and arps ? 
I've been buying 20-30 midi keyboards/controllers since my first Emu-Emax in the 80's I can't think of any one of them that didn't allow midi transpose.  Let alone global transpose.
Am I missing something or has Global transpose and Midi Transpose haven't been fixed with firmware yet. I've had this unit for a week and seems a shame to have to sell it already.  ???

Any help at all would be greatly appreciated


Haoleman

I dont't get it, why this is not fixed until today. It's an essential feature and because the older BSP has this feature, it's much more unbelieveable. A show stopper...  ???
Title: Re: Global Transpose?
Post by: iwanyan on July 01, 2022, 04:30:21 am
Hey guys I also +1 this on another thread but just saw this, isn't it already covered here?
https://support.arturia.com/hc/en-us/articles/4405741093394-KeyStep-Pro-Arranging-Transposing

The last item tells that you can make groups of selected tracks and then transpose them together. Didn't tried it yet though.
Title: Re: Global Transpose?
Post by: 440Hz on October 27, 2022, 06:15:22 pm
Hello,

Could someone confirm that it is not possible to transpose via midi in with the KSP?

Tx,

440hz
Title: Re: Global Transpose?
Post by: iamdro on November 19, 2022, 04:01:58 am
You can not transpose the keyboard in any way. you can transpose sequences as they are running.  I don't understand how this hasn't been addressed yet.

 I could write that code in a day, if it's too complicated to support both features let it be an option.  I have zero use for sequence transpose, I have a ton of use for keyboard transposing.  I will continue to write negative reviews on all available resellers as that seems to be the only thing I can do since support/ feature requests have done nothing.