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Title: Drum pad/track question. Different midi channels per pad?
Post by: Vertflyer on July 07, 2015, 04:45:51 am
Can each drum pad/track be assigned a different midi channel?
Title: Re: Drum pad/track question. Different midi channels per pad?
Post by: Valentin Arturia on July 07, 2015, 04:09:53 pm
Hi Vertflyer,
In the Drum sequencer you can choose only one MIDI channel for all the Pads (each Pad corresponding to one selectable MIDI note) but in Control Mode you can assign through the MCC the MIDI channel you want for each Pad. You can have a  look at the manual (http://downloads.arturia.com/products/beatstep-pro/manual/BeatStepPro_Manual_1_0_0_EN.pdf) on page 45 and in section 12.7 page 73 for detailled informations.
Thanks for your interest
Title: Re: Drum pad/track question. Different midi channels per pad?
Post by: Steinberger on July 18, 2015, 10:34:47 pm
They need to add this ability. There are many who use things like Electribes as drum machines. Each instrument is on a different part and thus sits on a different MIDI channel.
Title: Re: Drum pad/track question. Different midi channels per pad?
Post by: cryon on July 22, 2015, 10:09:18 am
They need to add this ability. There are many who use things like Electribes as drum machines. Each instrument is on a different part and thus sits on a different MIDI channel.

Agreed! Not to mention the Volca Sample which have each sample on a different midi channel!
Title: Re: Drum pad/track question. Different midi channels per pad?
Post by: jahasw on July 22, 2015, 01:26:56 pm
+1

Roland SH-32 assigns a whole range of octaves for different percussions on one channel, so if i set it to same MIDI channel as other drum modules it will trigger all kinds of percussive sounds at the same time. I need to set it to different channel than other modules in my setup.

workaround would be to use SH-32 rhythm arpeggios from control mode on it's own channel, but then there is a sync problem with quantized playback start:
http://forum.arturia.com/index.php?topic=85048.0

..and Volca Sample here too. running out of channels! Haven't got clock signal to sync-in on Volca Sample to work.
Title: Re: Drum pad/track question. Different midi channels per pad?
Post by: cryon on July 22, 2015, 01:33:15 pm
..and Volca Sample here too. running out of channels! Haven't got clock signal to sync-in on Volca Sample to work.

Same here, cannot sync any of the volcas to the BSP via clock out to sync in, seems like they're incompatible.
Title: Re: Drum pad/track question. Different midi channels per pad?
Post by: Valentin Arturia on July 22, 2015, 03:09:50 pm
Hi,
For the Volcas Korg use their own clock sync which is not a standard. It probably be a future new feature. However you can try to set the clock in 1 step and change your drums' time division.
About the midi channel per pad on drums we will discuss to implement this feature as they are many demands.
Title: Re: Drum pad/track question. Different midi channels per pad?
Post by: cryon on July 22, 2015, 05:31:50 pm
Hi,
For the Volcas Korg use their own clock sync which is not a standard. It probably be a future new feature. However you can try to set the clock in 1 step and change your drums' time division.
About the midi channel per pad on drums we will discuss to implement this feature as they are many demands.

Bringing down the time division to 1/8 made it better, but the tempo is still wobbly and the volca sometimes skips a few notes (see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKJnhjSHKrs). Hope you will support Korg's sync specs in the future! For now I will sync it via Midi, works flawlessly. And thanks for reading and responding!  ;)
Title: Re: Drum pad/track question. Different midi channels per pad?
Post by: Steinberger on July 23, 2015, 03:15:31 am
About the midi channel per pad on drums we will discuss to implement this feature as they are many demands.

Thanks for the consideration! I think a lot of people might even be relieved with just the bottom 8 pads dong this "when pad.number, send note.myNote on channel.myChannel" logic if it helps you guys and gals with CPU demands. The top 8 could be used to enable/disable the corresponding bottom 8.

Regardless, like you see here, some of us have bought a BSP anyway knowing this but what you don't see are the ones who would like to buy one and aren't because of this limitation.

Please keep us updated on it! Me want!
Title: Re: Drum pad/track question. Different midi channels per pad?
Post by: ambeson on July 24, 2015, 01:05:17 pm
Hi all,

Sorry to slightly hijack this thread, but I have a similar question.

I've been trying to sequence my Vermona DRM1 (basic edition, no trigger inputs) with the BSP for a few hours, and after much looking through the manual and forums. So far, I've been able to set each of the bottom row of pads to a drum part on the Vermona, via the MIDI control centre. So far so good. However, the DRM1 is only sent MIDI when the BSP is in control mode. When in Drum Mode, no such joy. I've set the MIDI channel of the Drum Sequencer to #1, which is what the DRM1 is set to, so it should all work as far as I can see. Clearly I'm missing/overlooking something, but I'm at a loss as to what it is. Since I bought the BSP primarily to sequence the DRM, it's a bit frustrating!

Again, apologies for sort of hijacking the thread but if anyone can offer some help with this I'd really appreciate it.

Many thanks,
Rich
Title: Re: Drum pad/track question. Different midi channels per pad?
Post by: No Brain on July 24, 2015, 04:10:19 pm
Same for me Dude, can't sequence the drum of my Electribe2 :(
Need a upgrade please!
Title: Re: Drum pad/track question. Different midi channels per pad?
Post by: peteone43 on July 25, 2015, 07:55:05 am
Can each drum pad/track be assigned a different midi channel?

First of all thank you Arturia for this mindblowing product. The midi channel per pad feature would be fantastic, hope this can be done with firmware update.
Title: Re: Drum pad/track question. Different midi channels per pad?
Post by: Boytec on July 26, 2015, 09:27:46 pm
Yes pleease....Arturia..This is badly needed. I bought the BSP to sequence my Voca sample and would also like to sync clock to my other volcas.
Title: Re: Drum pad/track question. Different midi channels per pad?
Post by: an3 on August 01, 2015, 11:46:40 am
or a simple solution would be to have a setting in navigator: drum channel: ALL

Title: Re: Drum pad/track question. Different midi channels per pad?
Post by: PeterWolf on August 06, 2015, 09:42:31 am
an other request in the same way :
- the possibility to set midi chanel and midi notes per pad AND per sequence or per project.

explanation : I'm using the MicroX synth which has many drum banks but on one bank, the sounds I need are on some notes (let say kick on C3 and snare on C4) and on an other bank, it is the D3 et E4 which I need. but I want to have the kick always on the same pad of course...

Setting different midi notes on each pad AND for each project would be really great for a full Live session.

Regard
Title: Re: Drum pad/track question. Different midi channels per pad?
Post by: koochey on August 10, 2015, 11:05:14 pm
++++1 on the Volca clock and different midi channels on the drumpads !!
in addition it would be also great to change the knob midi channels and cc numbers in drum mode -
so we could control directly the volcas etc....
thanks xx
Title: Re: Drum pad/track question. Different midi channels per pad?
Post by: Steinberger on September 16, 2015, 08:46:49 am
Still wondering if this is ever going to get some love. Want to avoid spending $$$ on a MIDI Solutions Event Processor Plus when Arturia could add a channel field to each drum pad in MCC telling the BSP to flip the bits in the outgoing note on message to go where I want it. Nick at Sonic State even suggested it in his review of the BSP just a week after the previous post here. What's it gonna take?
Title: Re: Drum pad/track question. Different midi channels per pad?
Post by: cryon on September 16, 2015, 11:17:38 am
Still wondering if this is ever going to get some love. Want to avoid spending $$$ on a MIDI Solutions Event Processor Plus when Arturia could add a channel field to each drum pad in MCC telling the BSP to flip the bits in the outgoing note on message to go where I want it. Nick at Sonic State even suggested it in his review of the BSP just a week after the previous post here. What's it gonna take?

Same here, just a heads up if this feature is coming or not would be great!
Title: Re: Drum pad/track question. Different midi channels per pad?
Post by: Steinberger on September 21, 2015, 09:10:43 pm
Just sending out a notice that later this week I'll be receiving a MIDI Solutions Event Processor Plus to augment the functionality of the BSP Drum Sequencer and allow note to channel mapping. I have a setup like this using an iPad running MIDIFlow which is great at conditional routing like this but I want to take the iConnectAudio4+ and the iPad out of the equation for portability sake and reduce some latency.

The Plan:
Go straight out the MIDI Din of the BSP to a thru box that splits the signal to a Korg Volca Beats on one side and then to a MIDI Solutions Event Processor Plus on the other before going to a Electribe 2.

The BSP Drum Sequencer will control the Volca Beats with pads 9-16 (upper row) and then 7&8 for the Agoggo and Crash. Pads 1-6 will correspond to parts 9-14 on the Electribe using unique MIDI notes not conflicting with the Volca and pads 7&8 that are mapped to the Agoggo and Crash for the Volca will also be mapped to the Electribe parts 15&16 for some extra possibilities. The event processor will look for and process note and velocity info only for those notes, only for one channel and only on the cable going to the Electribe. Volca Beats is business as usual; just inserting a thru box on its cable here.

This whole thing will allow playing of two of my favorite pieces of gear on the same drum sequencer as well as use parts 1-8 for other instruments on the Electribe as well as reduce latency and increase portability in absence of a solution from Arturia. I really love both sequencers on the Electribe and the BSP but I need to be able to sequence the Electribe from other gear and this is it for the foreseeable future.

I'll post a new thread in the FAQ section once I get the details and configuration ironed out.
Title: Re: Drum pad/track question. Different midi channels per pad?
Post by: cryon on September 25, 2015, 10:01:05 pm
I'll post a new thread in the FAQ section once I get the details and configuration ironed out.

Sweet! Looking forward to it!
Title: Re: Drum pad/track question. Different midi channels per pad?
Post by: Steinberger on September 25, 2015, 10:28:05 pm
3rd Party Alternative has just been posted.

Topic: How-To: BeatStep Pro Drum Sequencer with Korg Electribe 2 and Volca Beats
http://forum.arturia.com/index.php?topic=85594.0

Come on Arturia, Nick Bat stated it quickly and simply on his Sonic State review. Totally understand bug fixes are a priority but Geez put it on the feature list for sure. This isn't the only application for it.
Title: Re: Drum pad/track question. Different midi channels per pad?
Post by: Godstalker on January 27, 2016, 01:36:10 pm
.. I would just like to chime in here and say that the only thing holding me back from purchase at the moment is the ability to assign different midi channels on the drum pads so that different drums can come from different devices. Anyone know if this is in the firmware / Midi Control Center roadmap?

Cheers!
Title: Re: Drum pad/track question. Different midi channels per pad?
Post by: giovomal on February 06, 2016, 05:38:54 pm
https://youtu.be/bJ2nC8aEMTA

http://www.retrokits.com/rk002/

very interesting!!
you have to understand if you can use a rk002 to connect Electribe Sampler 2 - slave (16 MIDI channels for 16 pads) to a Beatstep pro - master (single "midi channel 10" for all 16 pads)?
Title: Re: Drum pad/track question. Different midi channels per pad?
Post by: syrupcore on February 07, 2016, 12:41:33 pm
Pretty please +1
Title: Re: Drum pad/track question. Different midi channels per pad?
Post by: megamarkd on February 08, 2016, 06:18:42 am
I know it's not really why this thread exists, but I thought I'd mention here about the Future Retro Mondovox.  Fully sick chord splitter for monosynths (primarily) as well as being a very versatile midi router.  I have feeling you could split your drumtrack from your BSP to your Volca Beats/Electribe 2 and more!

Also, Yamaha RY30 will thru/out notes it receives for different instruments on a single channel via different channels depending on the individual routing you make for each instrument in the RY30.  Takes a good amount of time to map all the sounds but quite worth it, especially for multitimbre drumsynth triggering (not to mention the RY30 drum sounds are super versatile with resonant digital filters that are way ahead of their time).

MarkD
Title: Re: Drum pad/track question. Different midi channels per pad?
Post by: giovomal on December 06, 2016, 03:27:52 pm
news on the possible implementation of MIDI channels for the drum sequencer pad??
come on Arturia would be a breakthrough!! :D
Title: Re: Drum pad/track question. Different midi channels per pad?
Post by: teknoid on December 20, 2016, 11:51:22 am
Hi,
For the Volcas Korg use their own clock sync which is not a standard. It probably be a future new feature. However you can try to set the clock in 1 step and change your drums' time division.
About the midi channel per pad on drums we will discuss to implement this feature as they are many demands.

17 months later: nothing changed.

just like with the microbrute sequencer midi sync bug: ('officially noted as bug, will probably get fixed in the future')
then came the microbrutes in 7 colors'
:(
Title: Re: Drum pad/track question. Different midi channels per pad?
Post by: gdouglas on February 26, 2017, 07:25:49 pm
I would like to add my voice to the desire for this feature to be implemented. I can understand it may not be easy to implement if the original software design didn't take multi-channel transport per device sequence into consideration. Given the hardware interface though, barring any technical restrictions for transmission, I can see this working quite gracefully on the BSP.
Title: Re: Drum pad/track question. Different midi channels per pad?
Post by: funktree on March 07, 2017, 08:54:06 pm
Yes need the sync to Volca ... and ALSO various midi channels on the drum sequencer
Title: Re: Drum pad/track question. Different midi channels per pad?
Post by: Inquisitore on May 25, 2017, 11:43:36 pm
Yes, the multiple midi channel could be perfect, also if someone like me would like to control both volca beats and volca sample as a giant drum machine :P
Title: Re: Drum pad/track question. Different midi channels per pad?
Post by: hardware 408 on June 20, 2017, 08:01:32 am
What are you doing that needs different midi channels on each pad in the drum sequencer?? 

Get a second BSP they are fairly cheap and you get two more synth channels too :)
Title: Re: Drum pad/track question. Different midi channels per pad?
Post by: megamarkd on June 20, 2017, 10:08:48 am
Triggering instruments on different drum machines/samplers.  I had some need years ago to do this, but I can't remember why.  My RY-30 can do it, but it was considerably more expensive when it was released than the BSP.
Title: Re: Drum pad/track question. Different midi channels per pad?
Post by: Steinberger on June 25, 2017, 02:52:54 am
About the midi channel per pad on drums we will discuss to implement this feature as they are many demands.

Thanks for the consideration! I think a lot of people might even be relieved with just the bottom 8 pads dong this "when pad.number, send note.myNote on channel.myChannel" logic if it helps you guys and gals with CPU demands. The top 8 could be used to enable/disable the corresponding bottom 8.

Regardless, like you see here, some of us have bought a BSP anyway knowing this but what you don't see are the ones who would like to buy one and aren't because of this limitation.

Please keep us updated on it! Me want!

Got the update! Works great! Thanks!  ;D